'How shall a man judge what to do in such times?' 'As he ever has judged,' said Aragorn. 'Good and ill have not changed since yesteryear; nor are they one thing among Elves and Dwarves, and another among Men. It is a man's part to discern them, as much in the Golden Wood as in his own house.'
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Re: Inexplicable « Reply #229 on Dec 30, 2008, 1:11am »
If I had my way I would move the commercialized part of Christmas (ie. the Santa Claus/gift giving/decorated pine trees parts that have nothing to do with religion) to New Years and make it open to all people, not just Christians. Then the Christians could celebrate the birth of Jesus in a less commercialized way.
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Re: Inexplicable « Reply #230 on Dec 30, 2008, 11:57am »
You could do it like the Dutch do it - Dec 5-6th is when Sinterklaas leaves the kids presents, and Christmas itself is more of a family gathering holliday - sort of like our Thanksgiving.
Christmas trees may have started as a pagan symbol, but they are Christian too - the green tree in winter is symbolic of everlasting life, which is what Christians believe Jesus brought us.
My family has always kept Christmas eve quite religious, with the reading of the story of Jesus' birth from the Bible and singing the more religious carols as a family. Christmas day itself then becomes the more gift-centered day.
'How shall a man judge what to do in such times?' 'As he ever has judged,' said Aragorn. 'Good and ill have not changed since yesteryear; nor are they one thing among Elves and Dwarves, and another among Men. It is a man's part to discern them, as much in the Golden Wood as in his own house.'
You could do it like the Dutch do it - Dec 5-6th is when Sinterklaas leaves the kids presents, and Christmas itself is more of a family gathering holiday - sort of like our Thanksgiving.
Commercialism is encroaching on Christmas more and more though. As far as retail is concerned Christmas season starts right after Sinterklaas leaves the country.
Christmas trees may have started as a pagan symbol, but they are Christian too - the green tree in winter is symbolic of everlasting life, which is what Christians believe Jesus brought us.
A symbol means whatever those using it want it to mean. There are plenty of countries where Christians are a small minority but people are still having fun celebrating Christmas, trees included. Japan for example.
There are plenty of countries where Christians are a small minority but people are still having fun celebrating Christmas, trees included. Japan for example.
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Re: Inexplicable « Reply #233 on Dec 30, 2008, 4:41pm »
Is it a little ironic that countries without a christian heritage are celebrating Christmas when western countries that have their culture and heritage based in Christianity are trying to get rid of it?
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Is it a little ironic that countries without a christian heritage are celebrating Christmas when western countries that have their culture and heritage based in Christianity are trying to get rid of it?
Christmas will always be with us. There's just too much money to be made...
I'm getting a message when I try to log into photobucket :
Forbidden You don't have permission to access /albums/bb184/ginniegatrit/ on this server.
So all my links are broken. They didn't send me any email about this or anything, I don't know what's going on. Anyone else have this problem?
After reading this I tried to access lionking's Photobucket pictures she posted on another thread and couldn't. It was working fine yesterday so the problem appears to be on their end.
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Re: Inexplicable « Reply #238 on May 15, 2009, 6:01pm »
I hope I get it back because all those pics I posted on here using my "expert" analysis are gone. I opened up an account with tinypic to get my avatar here.