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Re: Obama was born in Kenya and is a closet muslim « Reply #1 on Nov 9, 2008, 10:58pm »
Let's pretend for a minute that Obama really was born in Kenya and is a Muslim. So what? Is he somehow inferior because of those specific traits? How could he possibly do a worse job than a particular "real American" from Texas?
Explain to me why this theory isn't based on bigotry. I kind of doubt people would make such a big deal out of his history if he was a white Christian who was hiding the fact that he was really born in Canada.
I'm really starting to get sick of racists and other hateful people.
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Re: Obama was born in Kenya and is a closet muslim « Reply #2 on Nov 9, 2008, 11:19pm »
The first video is really lousy evidence. So some nameless people in Kenya say Obama was born there and that makes it true? Please. I could just as easily say he was born in Hudson Heights, Quebec.
"My feet they finally took root in the Earth, but I got me a nice little place in the stars, and I swear I found the key to the universe in the engine of an old parked car..."
Re: Obama was born in Kenya and is a closet muslim « Reply #3 on Nov 9, 2008, 11:51pm »
Funny, the state officials responsible for birth records in Hawaii don't seem to agree with you..
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HONOLULU (AP) State officials say there's no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.
Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Friday she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.
Fukino says that no state official, including Republican Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama's certificate be handled differently.
The first two videos both used the same deceptive technique. They highlighted the words "Obama was born in Kenya" in a court document, hoping the audience won't notice that the word before "Obama" was "claim"... as in "Person X and Person Y claim Obama was born in Kenya".
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So some nameless people in Kenya say Obama was born there and that makes it true?
Did they even say he was born in Kenya? They said he was Kenyan, but that could just mean "of Kenyan descent" not "he was born in Kenya". I'm often referred to as Welsh by my family because my Dad was from Wales. I've never been there.
« Last Edit: Nov 10, 2008, 12:35am by LunarOrbit »
Did they even say he was born in Kenya? They said he was Kenyan, but that could just mean "of Kenyan descent" not "he was born in Kenya". I'm often referred to as Welsh by my family because my Dad was from Wales. I've never been there.
Well, the lady in the pink shirt says he's "originally from Kenya," but you're right, the other peoples' statements are more ambiguous. That's why they need the written statement on the screen beforehand to tell us how to interpret them. Manipulative.
"My feet they finally took root in the Earth, but I got me a nice little place in the stars, and I swear I found the key to the universe in the engine of an old parked car..."
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Re: Obama was born in Kenya and is a closet muslim « Reply #7 on Nov 10, 2008, 10:23am »
People sure are desperately trying to come up with new conspiracy claims.
Imagine if Hillary stayed and won. What crap would appear then?
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Did they even say he was born in Kenya? They said he was Kenyan, but that could just mean "of Kenyan descent" not "he was born in Kenya". I'm often referred to as Welsh by my family because my Dad was from Wales. I've never been there.
Same applies to me; I'm referred to as being Polish, but this doesn't mean I was born there. In fact, I'm also Lebonese, English, and German. So according to the logic of the originator of this conspiracy theory, I must've been born in four different countries.
Re: Obama was born in Kenya and is a closet muslim « Reply #10 on Nov 10, 2008, 2:05pm »
Having a rather a fondness for these scaly poikilotherms, I dislike the insinuation that politicians are in some way related to these creatures, polymorphic or no.
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Re: Obama was born in Kenya and is a closet muslim « Reply #11 on Nov 10, 2008, 2:30pm »
My apologies to all offended non shape shifting ectotherms, scaly or not. My comment was only meant to apply to those that take on human form to advance their cold causes at the expense of us true warm blooded Americans.
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Re: Obama was born in Kenya and is a closet muslim « Reply #12 on Nov 10, 2008, 3:55pm »
Rusty, This topic has already been covered pretty well in Predictions for 2008.
Judge Surrick dismissed Berg's case, not on the merits, but by determination that Mr. Berg didn't have standing before the court, which is just nuts. Mr. Berg then brought the case before the United States Supreme Court where, according to the judge's clerk, Obama will have to produce his real birth certificate in response to a petition for writ of certiorari by December 1. I'm just waiting to see if the Supreme Court allows Obama to skate on this. So much trouble for something so easy for Obama to make go away.
Wanting our president to be an American citizen isn't bigotry. See this? There are even some Black Americans who want an American president. Is Elliott Washington a racist too? Name-calling is a popular tactic used by leftist extremists in an attempt to intimidate people who disagree with them.
Re: Obama was born in Kenya and is a closet muslim « Reply #13 on Nov 10, 2008, 4:13pm »
I am not an American, so I have no say in this, but I never liked the rule that meant an American president had to be a born in America. Sure that opens up the floodgates to the idea of Arnold Schwarzenegger theoretically becoming president, but America already has had an actor/president (Ronald Reagan) and it survived just fine. America was born of immigrants, it's greatest strength is its diversity. Of course,I would want an American president to be an American CITIZEN, but born elsewhere? Why should that matter?
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Re: Obama was born in Kenya and is a closet muslim « Reply #14 on Nov 10, 2008, 5:03pm »
My problem with a Schwarzenegger administration has really very little to do with his previous profession. Likewise my problems with the Reagan administration.
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