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Post by renritmit on Jan 19, 2009 0:11:19 GMT -4
Please could some one tell me what the conspiracy theorists views are on Apollo13!!!!!!
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Post by Czero 101 on Jan 19, 2009 0:28:13 GMT -4
I think the main theory about 13 is that it was staged in order to recapture the public's interest in the Space Program and therefor drum up more funding for future "missions" (or hoaxes, as CT'ers would have you believe).
The problem with that is that most people who propagate this theory neglect to acknowledge that funding for Apollo was received its initial cuts in 1966, before the first Apollo mission even flew, and was reduced even further with each subsequent budget.
Cz
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Post by laurel on Jan 19, 2009 0:45:38 GMT -4
Mary Bennett and David Percy are suspicious about Apollo 13 because, among other reasons, "Why, in a country which is so superstitious that the hotels do not generally have a thirteenth floor, do they name a space mission Apollo 13?" And Donna Hare said aliens may have caused the Apollo 13 accident to keep the astronauts from exploring a certain part of the Moon but the aliens also helped Apollo 13 get home safely (which is an insult to the crew and the flight controllers in my opinion). The silly thing is that Apollo 14 landed where 13 would have, so I wonder why the aliens didn't stop them as well.
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Post by Jason on Jan 19, 2009 2:35:04 GMT -4
Mary Bennett and David Percy are suspicious about Apollo 13 because, among other reasons, "Why, in a country which is so superstitious that the hotels do not generally have a thirteenth floor, do they name a space mission Apollo 13?" It comes after 12.
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Post by Obviousman on Jan 19, 2009 2:50:52 GMT -4
HBs say it was meant to rekindle interest in the space programme and keep the money flowing (as previously mentioned).
The other problem with that is that they nearly stopped the missions after 13. Kennedy's goal had been achieved - twice. Many people - from within NASA - wanted to call a halt to the Apollo programme rather than risk having a dead crew orbiting somewhere in space if there were another accident. The changes that were needed to the spacecraft cost MORE money from the dwindling budget, so it would have been counter-productive on many levels as a "staged event".
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Post by Apollo Gnomon on Jan 19, 2009 3:13:21 GMT -4
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Post by JayUtah on Jan 19, 2009 13:47:43 GMT -4
The title of the Bennett and Percy book Dark Moon comes from their claim that the Apollo 13 landing site would have been in pre-dawn darkness when the LM would have landed. This, they say, proves that Apollo 13 was planned as a "failure" from the very beginning.
The authors make two glaring errors. First, they consider the location of the Fra Mauro crater, not the coordinates of the actual landing site which was in the region of the crater but some distance from it. Second, they don't allow for the ten descent-orbit calibration revs following lunar orbit insertion. That takes 20 hours, and did not occur on Apollo 13.
Other conspiracy theorists take issue with the cold cabin, believing that under the harsh sunlight the cabin should have heated up. But of course none of these people can discuss the heat transfer even at the basic level, much less incorporating principles of spacecraft thermal design.
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Post by trevor on Jan 20, 2009 4:30:15 GMT -4
Yeah well it's the same thing as it getting hotter with altitude because you get closer to the sun. So it has to be real hot in space.
Hellooo! look what happened to Icarus.
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Post by Obviousman on Jan 20, 2009 4:59:23 GMT -4
LOL!
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Post by Grand Lunar on Jan 21, 2009 7:57:20 GMT -4
None appearently can discuss any basic aspect of any field of science, for that matter. I have a feeling the HB crowd are the types that slept through science classes. That, or they just drew in the books or on the desks.
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Post by echnaton on Jan 21, 2009 9:25:20 GMT -4
None appearently can discuss any basic aspect of any field of science, for that matter. I have a feeling the HB crowd are the types that slept through science classes. That, or they just drew in the books or on the desks. I actually found that I got better grades in high school physics if I slept through class. The teacher was that confusing. One day a friend in the class reported that the teacher noticed that my friend was the only student still awake so the teacher just stopped lecturing. I got an A in that grading period.
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Post by JayUtah on Jan 21, 2009 11:09:33 GMT -4
Ugh -- as a graduate student I sometimes had to "shadow teach" courses because the lecturing professor was so inept and confusing. Lectures were attended pro forma and then I would have to present the material later in a more coherent manner. That was made difficult by the need to undo the professor's obfuscation.
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Post by echnaton on Jan 21, 2009 11:49:05 GMT -4
I fortunately never TAed for a prof who was that bad. But I found that helping confused finance students (and there were many) really taught me a lot about the material that I had otherwise glossed over. That really helped me when I was lecturing.
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Post by Count Zero on Jan 22, 2009 1:52:50 GMT -4
My dad always told me to eschew obfuscation.
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Post by Al Johnston on Jan 22, 2009 6:00:29 GMT -4
My dad always told me to eschew obfuscation. ... and certainly to cultivate tha abjuration of any tendency to sesquipedalianism... ;D
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