Re: Lunar Module in London Science Museum: Exposed « Reply #15 on Jan 4, 2012, 7:21pm »
What do you mean? I've seen the usual pieces of Apollo hardware in museums, and I've never had any reason to doubt that they are what the placards say they are. I can look inside and see that it matches the copious Apollo documentation that's been available for some time. I do notice that many of these museum items have been cannibalized by removal of various items of equipment, but that's common for museum pieces since they don't have to be operational.
Regardless, people are going to accept anything that looks like a module because they don't think otherwise
The problem is that some do think otherwise. One of the recurring arguments from conspiracy theorists is that the LM doesn't look like their idea of a spacecraft. So clearly, someone intending to perpetrate a hoax will want to make sure that those who do care and who do at least claim to think critically have something to appease them. For the rest, an "accurate" (i.e., what the lay public expects) isn't going to register any differently to their apathy.
Regardless, people are going to accept anything that looks like a module because they don't think otherwise
The problem is that some do think otherwise. One of the recurring arguments from conspiracy theorists is that the LM doesn't look like their idea of a spacecraft. So clearly, someone intending to perpetrate a hoax will want to make sure that those who do care and who do at least claim to think critically have something to appease them. For the rest, an "accurate" (i.e., what the lay public expects) isn't going to register any differently to their apathy.
No only that, but for even us folk that aren't rocket scientists, if we honestly sat down and contemplated what a lander should look like, it's not that different to what the LM and even the LK really did look like.
Basically the idea of a lightweight box on four stabilising legs with a rocket engine in the middle, set up into the box as high as one can get it is a pretty darn good shape to start with. The LM and LK were both more refined than that, but both had that basic shape.
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What would they say about the real Apollo capsule which is on display in the science museum in Los Angeles? (Yes, I got a picture!)
I examined the Apollo 10 capsule, in the British science museum, in the early 1990's. Unfortunately I didn't take a photo. However at that time it wasn't cordoned off from the public, as it is now. The capsule felt real, it's interior looked real and the museum staff I questioned appeared to believe it was real. I, actually, touched this craft, and eyeballed it. the apollo LM may be a reproduction but that does not negate A10's reality. Nor it's flight.
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Re: Lunar Module in London Science Museum: Exposed « Reply #19 on Jan 28, 2012, 7:47am »
Hello. Page prior this is my picture of 10 as you say. It is now out of bounds to an extent but with a camera you can get close up. And the mark I can get in close as well. It certainly looks the part, the ablative shield interested me and it looks like it has been through a bit of warming up and the streaks along its surface are the same I have seen when playing with fire, fire derived from bottles.
One of the recurring arguments from conspiracy theorists is that the LM doesn't look like their idea of a spacecraft
I've noticed this myself.
Even most hoaxers accept that artificial satellites are real, as it's hard to explain GPS, Sirius/XM and DirecTV otherwise. So one of my responses is to show them pictures of just about any modern unmanned spacecraft being prepped for launch. They're always covered with large thermal blankets of aluminized Kapton just like the descent stage of the LM. And that does make them look pretty flimsy.
Of course, this requires them to think and to draw logical inferences. Always a challenge with hoaxers.
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Re: Lunar Module in London Science Museum: Exposed « Reply #21 on Jan 28, 2012, 2:19pm »
Sometimes I get the impression that something from scifi has to be the ticket for their argument. It must have smooth lines and look sleek.... for the air in space I think?
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