I'd seen that before. That looks like earth gravity. Whatever he threw (I think it was a hammer) probably had a cord on it. I used to tie rocks to strings and throw them when I was a kid. I could have thrown that object in that manner and it would have travelled about the distance that the object in the video travelled. You people are good at having a patronizing scornful attitude even when you're evidence is nothing. I'd say that video proves they were on earth.
Do you think that's what caused the glint here too?
http://www.hq.nasa.gov./alsj/a16/a16v.1213311.rm
It looks exactly like the glint in question. I don't buy your explanation.
This guy puts it pretty well.
apollohoax.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=theories&action=display&thread=1122302912&page=3You misquoted him.
Here's what he really said.
Misquoting people is a tactic that desperate people use.
Watch this clip.
Now watch this clip.
www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11v.1101330.rmThe body movements are noticably different. This is more proof of the hoax.
If I were to say something like this, you people would be all over me. This is empty rhetoric.
You haven't said anything that would convince anybody with any brains that it's impossible to make sand dust-free. You've only spoken authoritatively. I told you how it could be done--sift it and then wash it as many times as necessary until there is no dust. You say that just pouring it will cause enough erosion to create enough dust-sized particles to form clouds. If that's really the case (which I doubt), it can be transported and put in place carefully. You said somewhere that there are footprints in the footage that show obvious dust-sized particles; maybe they only put the sifted washed sand where the rover was going to drive.
I don't just take their word for it; their explanations of the anomalies in the footage make sense and those of you people don't.
You're being simplistic here. You are aware of what hoax believers think. They think that this whole site was set up by and run by people who know Apollo was a hoax as a damage-control measure. We hoax believers take that into account when you give us your explanations. If you give highly techincal explanations, all we can do is consult an objective third party. It would be naive to just take you word for it.
Everything you people have put forward has fallen short of conclusive proof that the moon missions were real. You've put forth plausible and not-so-plausible explanations for things. Some of your explanations have been downright lame such as the ones on the wire glint issue yet you people maintain your scornful patronizing attitudes.
You know the classic fallacy in logic illustrated by the story of trees that lose their leaves in the Fall. If someone makes the statement, "All trees lose their leaves in the fall", and then proceed to give hundreds of examples of trees that lose their leaves in the Fall, all his evidence falls by the wayside if only one example of a tree that doesn't lose its leaves in the Fall is shown.
You're explanations for this are mere plausible explanations that may or may not be shown to be untrue later.
apollohoax.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=theories&action=display&thread=1169203802You certainly haven't proven they went to the moon here.
If just one thing comes up that can't be refuted, all of your plausible explanations fall by the wayside because that's all they are. The other explanation is just as plausible.
There are several things you haven't refuted well. Having the attitude that you have refuted them doesn't fool anybody.
You're avoiding the issue here. Post one thing that would convince a thinking person that the moon missions were real. You can't because there isn't any proof that they went.
If you look back at my post, you'll see that I was saying that the speed was about seventy percent of normal speed. I think I could flail my hands thirty percent faster than the astronaut in the footage.
I don't see any reason to believe that no astrophysicists doubt the authenticityof Apollo. How can this be verified? There are lots of plausibe scenarios here.
The ones who doubt it might be afraid to say so.
The sources we have that say none doubt it might be lying.
If I see something that might be of interest to the viewers, there's no reason not to post it so they can decide for themselves even if I don't have the background to deal with it. I suppose I could have started a thread about it though. I plead guilty to that.
That's not the case with the wire footage issue or the difference in body movements issue or the double speed issue. Your explanations were pretty lame. I doubt you believe them yourselves.
Show something you think would convince a normal thinking person that they really went to the moon.
If the reflection on the boot was too bright to have been a reflection, how would its being cropped up make a difference anyway?
The one mentioned above was clearly not in one sixth gravity.
If there are other plausible explanations, the one you give can't be used as proof. It's a mere plausibility.
I was referring to "Clear frontal shots" that show a good view of the speed and trajectory. The one above was taken at a distance.
I clicked on all the links in reply #497. I only got music. What happened?
I've seen some other footage of objects being thrown and they weren't clear frontal shots. They all looked like earth gravity.
Please tell me where to find those shots above as those links just take me to music.
They must be in here.
www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a12/www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a14/www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a16/www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/(Click on "Video and Movie Clips " in these links.)
Again I say this is pretty lame. The hoax believers made some mistakes when they made the documentaries and you've pointed them out such as the smokeless hypergolic fuel and oxidizing agent combination. None of that proves they went to the moon though. You've put forth plausible explanations for the anomalies but it remains to be proven which explanation is true. All of your plausible explanations fall by the wayside if there is some good solid proof that the footage was filmed on earth. All your evidence in its entirety means nothing if it's all mere plausibilities and none of it is conclusive proof.
Post one thing that proves they went to the moon.