JFK - also for the heck of it « Thread Started on Jul 7, 2005, 8:07pm »
I'm interested in what everyone thinks really happened regarding the JFK assassination. Was it Oswald alone? Oswald and others? Or was Oswald not even a shooter, others did it?
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Re: JFK - also for the heck of it « Reply #5 on Jul 8, 2005, 2:24am »
turbonium, you have shown that you are a GUCT and don't listen to anything anyways so why should we bother? You're acting just like those that roam the delusional halls of GLP do, claiming victory by changing topic and ignoring anything that puts a hole in your claims. Sorry but you have become boring.
You want to discuss the JFK now, yet you ignored everything on the Apollo footage and 9/11, why would we expect you to do less here?
There really is no point in showing you the evidence, that Oswald was seen with the rifle in the window, that the he was photographed by his wife holding the weapon months eariler, that he was a marine sharpshooter and was qualified at a higher rating that he needed to do the shooting, that only bullets or bullet fragments from three bullets were recovered, that the "Magic Bullet" was NOT pristine and damage to it was found to be consistant with what was expected via experimentation, that using 3D Modelling Technology all the bullets were shown to have been fired from exactly the same place, the Book Depositry window. That Oswald was later seen by a number of witnesses to shoot Officer Tippet, that the casings from the shooting perfectly matched the weapon that Oswald was carrying at the time of his arrest.
No, you'd rather waffle off on tangents, ignore the evidence and play out the CT lines that have been shown wrong time and time again.
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Re: JFK - also for the heck of it « Reply #6 on Jul 8, 2005, 4:00am »
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I'm interested in what everyone thinks really happened regarding the JFK assassination. Was it Oswald alone? Oswald and others? Or was Oswald not even a shooter, others did it?
Pretty obvious, isn't it? It was a tiny pink alien with a ray-gun who had accidentally become stuck in the Brylcreem in Roy Kellerman's hair.
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Re: JFK - also for the heck of it « Reply #10 on Jul 8, 2005, 8:28pm »
I alway liked the Tikka to Ride theory that a group of inept time travellers go back and accidentally disrupt Oswald's shot sequence. In this new timeline JFK is only wounded but goes on to get impeached due to a scandal in 1964. Kennedy is then visited by the time travellers who convince him that the way to restore his honor and place in history is for he himself to go back to November 1963, set up on the grassy knoll (in a policeman's uniform) and shoot his previous self with a high powered rifle.
Re: JFK - also for the heck of it « Reply #11 on Jul 8, 2005, 10:26pm »
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turbonium, you have shown that you are a GUCT and don't listen to anything anyways so why should we bother? You're acting just like those that roam the delusional halls of GLP do, claiming victory by changing topic and ignoring anything that puts a hole in your claims. Sorry but you have become boring.
You want to discuss the JFK now, yet you ignored everything on the Apollo footage and 9/11, why would we expect you to do less here?
There really is no point in showing you the evidence, that Oswald was seen with the rifle in the window, that the he was photographed by his wife holding the weapon months eariler, that he was a marine sharpshooter and was qualified at a higher rating that he needed to do the shooting, that only bullets or bullet fragments from three bullets were recovered, that the "Magic Bullet" was NOT pristine and damage to it was found to be consistant with what was expected via experimentation, that using 3D Modelling Technology all the bullets were shown to have been fired from exactly the same place, the Book Depositry window. That Oswald was later seen by a number of witnesses to shoot Officer Tippet, that the casings from the shooting perfectly matched the weapon that Oswald was carrying at the time of his arrest.
No, you'd rather waffle off on tangents, ignore the evidence and play out the CT lines that have been shown wrong time and time again.
Sorry, we just aren't playing anymore.
phantom, that is a crock. I have replied to all the opposing viewpoints - I have certainly not "ignored everything" that has been discussed. Far from it. I found out that it's important to watch the entire Apollo 11 footage of the Sibrel footage to understand it in full context. And so I agreed with that, and will get the footage so I can see what has been explained. I have no problem with that - it's what I am after - the fuil and accurate story.
On the "arm" issue, I was unaware of the "S"-band antenna until I came here, and I am happy to see that it matches up with the object in the video clip. I have not been satisfied with the "arm" as the mesh, not at this point. And the other objects have ywet to be discussed. The 9/11 issue is where I differ on many ponts, especially the molten steel being from eutectic reaction and the collapses being possible from fire and plane impact.
Now, on the JFK topic, I've started a thread to garner opinions on what people think of the various possible scenarios. By asserting I "ignore" replies, do you really mean I don't agree with everything said? Is that what has given you the impression I deserve a pile of accusatory nonsense?
I haven't "claimed victory" and ignored countering views at all. Like I said above, some points I consider valid, some I don't. So what? At least I don't say that I have all the answers to all these things - unlike some people claim to have. Isn't the whole idea for having these threads a place to put forth differing views and then have an exchange of them through debate and discussion?
I'm boring? Fine. Don't "play along". Have a good life.
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Re: JFK - also for the heck of it « Reply #14 on Jul 10, 2005, 10:47pm »
Part of the problem turbonium, is that the denizens of this forum are by and large, techincal people ,and the JFK conspiracy theory is more a political conspiracy with actually little in the way of technical details to ponder.
Apollo, or large aircraft impacts and fires in 4 buildings and the collapse of 3 buildings in NYC offer up many more technical details than the flight characteristics of three bullets.
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