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Post by Ginnie on Nov 19, 2007 22:16:17 GMT -4
NASA Set to Launch Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter in 2008. This orbiter will be able to photograph the Apollo Landing sites. That means that by the end of 2008 (if launched on schedule), by Christmas or so there will be photographic evidence that can't be disputed.
Oh, Wait,
Nuts! This is a NASA mission!
never mind...........
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Post by Ginnie on Nov 19, 2007 22:20:34 GMT -4
You know, it's going to happen sooner or later that we indeed will have the Apollo landing sites clearly photographed, whether it's by NASA or the Japanese or even Chinese. It will be a glorious day, to see all the HB websites start disappearing. I wonder if they will admit their wicked ways or apologize for the misinformation that they spread. I think not. They will just silently disappear from the web without any explanation. But I wouldn't be surprised if some hardcore HB (Jarah, Percy, Jack White) still maintain the hoax. I think the ones with commercial interests will.
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Post by Czero 101 on Nov 19, 2007 23:51:31 GMT -4
But I wouldn't be surprised if some hardcore HB (Jarah, Percy, Jack White) still maintain the hoax. I think the ones with commercial interests will. Something new will definitely turn up... <HB mode:activate>"Those supposed Apollo lading sites were actually set up by NASA apologist agents over the last 20 years. You know all those "highly classified" military shuttle flights? They were actually satellites sent to the moon to drop mock-up LM descent stages, Rovers and fake experiment packages at the "landing sites". And I have proof of this too. I got a letter from a guy who met someone who overheard a conversation at a truck stop about someone on the internet talking about some guy he talked to in a Moon Hoax Conspiracy chat room who said he "accidentally" got e-mailed details about a highly classified military project at NASA. And it has to be true because that truck stop in question was in Florida a mere 325 miles from Cape Kennedy. Unfortunately the truck stop got bulldozed recently to make way for a Wal-Mart, the guy who overheard the conversation died at age 97 under "mysterious circumstances" and the e-mail address for the guy who "accidentally" received the information now comes back as "undeliverable". But that's all part of the "Master Plan" to cover their tracks. But its all 100% true... ...and its all documented in the 565-page book and Collector's Edition 5-disc DVD combo-set I'm selling for $179.95 (plus S&H) on my website www.a-funny-thing-happened-on-the-way-to-the-truck-stop.info ..." <HB mode:deactivate> Cz
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Post by alex04 on Nov 21, 2007 6:43:35 GMT -4
But I wouldn't be surprised if some hardcore HB (Jarah, Percy, Jack White) still maintain the hoax. I think the ones with commercial interests will. Something new will definitely turn up... <HB mode:activate>"Those supposed Apollo lading sites were actually set up by NASA apologist agents over the last 20 years. You know all those "highly classified" military shuttle flights? They were actually satellites sent to the moon to drop mock-up LM descent stages, Rovers and fake experiment packages at the "landing sites". And I have proof of this too. I got a letter from a guy who met someone who overheard a conversation at a truck stop about someone on the internet talking about some guy he talked to in a Moon Hoax Conspiracy chat room who said he "accidentally" got e-mailed details about a highly classified military project at NASA. And it has to be true because that truck stop in question was in Florida a mere 325 miles from Cape Kennedy. Unfortunately the truck stop got bulldozed recently to make way for a Wal-Mart, the guy who overheard the conversation died at age 97 under "mysterious circumstances" and the e-mail address for the guy who "accidentally" received the information now comes back as "undeliverable". But that's all part of the "Master Plan" to cover their tracks. But its all 100% true... ...and its all documented in the 565-page book and Collector's Edition 5-disc DVD combo-set I'm selling for $179.95 (plus S&H) on my website www.a-funny-thing-happened-on-the-way-to-the-truck-stop.info ..." <HB mode:deactivate> Cz no doubt the response will be along those lines. Don't know why the government over the last 10 years, would be bothered to spend billions of dollars just to protect the reputation of the government back in the 60s/70s though
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Post by Grand Lunar on Nov 21, 2007 10:46:19 GMT -4
I don't expect any HB sites to dissapear, even when (provided the govt doesn't kill this project) we return.
They'll still make excuses, hold double standards, and make up stuff in general to convince both themselves, and others, that Apollo was faked.
It seems to be integral to their belief systems. They cannot accept that a govt agency preformed such a feat as Apollo, especially in a time before PCs (as we know them today, anyway).
Some will even believe the new missions are fake. Jarrah made such a comment once.
Their auidence may dwindle, but HBs will not go away. Not for a long, long time.
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Post by frenat on Nov 21, 2007 11:58:14 GMT -4
As long as there is paranoia and schizophrenia, there will be HBs.
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Post by Ginnie on Nov 21, 2007 19:44:09 GMT -4
Hey LO do you remember the video that I believe svector made that sped up NASA Apollo footage over a long time , showing the flag not moving - even with all the astronaut activity going on around it? I don't know if it was in the middle of one of svectors productions or independent of it.
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Post by Tanalia on Nov 21, 2007 23:16:15 GMT -4
Hey LO do you remember the video that I believe svector made that sped up NASA Apollo footage over a long time , showing the flag not moving - even with all the astronaut activity going on around it? I don't know if it was in the middle of one of svectors productions or independent of it. Lunar Legacy Episode 1, Part 2
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Post by fireballxl5 on Nov 22, 2007 10:45:23 GMT -4
I think this post regarding the Chinese lunar probe just about sums it up.
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Post by Data Cable on Nov 22, 2007 12:42:24 GMT -4
Nothing is hard for one who doesn't have to actually do it himself... much less do it in complete secrecy.
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Post by wdmundt on Nov 22, 2007 12:45:42 GMT -4
Basla-wood is actually quite heavy -- particularly the kind that can be planeted.
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Post by brotherofthemoon on Nov 22, 2007 14:10:49 GMT -4
Basla-wood is actually quite heavy -- particularly the kind that can be planeted. I also doubt balsa wood models could survive the acceleration forces during launch, the heat of the rockets themselves, or the actual landing on the Moon. That would make an interesting challenge to HBs: Devise a system to send six exact replica Apollo landing sites to the Moon, constructed from balsa wood, in exact secrecy before the Chinese probe begins taking high-resolution images of the surface. You have until December 15th to get back to me. ;D
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Post by dwight on Nov 23, 2007 6:38:18 GMT -4
What cracks me up is the way the HB brigade display multiple you-tube demonstrated cynicism against the fact that no TV camera in the world can shoot a daylight scene and include stars in the picture, and yet readily accept a flimsy balsa wood model of the LM can be robotically transported to the lunar surface without anyone picking up on the fact. I have ceased debating them due to fact that I can get more enjoyable and stimulating fairytales from Tolkien.
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Post by JayUtah on Nov 23, 2007 14:41:46 GMT -4
I'd be disinclined to hold them literally to balsa wood. I think the spirit of the challenge is to make something that is essentially a theatrical prop and soft-land it remotely at the Apollo landing sites in short order, without giving away that this late remote placement is actually what was done. (I'm sure when the remote photographs are available, conspiracists will be examining them for "evidence" of the remote placement, using standard conspiracist photographic handwaving techniques.)
But it illustrates the real story. NASA is inept when it comes to doing what they say they're going to do. NASA displays any genius necessary to carry out some sort of deception or strong-arm tactic. The goal is to illustrate that NASA is evil, not inept.
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Post by svector on Nov 24, 2007 3:09:29 GMT -4
The goal is to illustrate that NASA is evil, not inept. And by association, those who support NASA's official record based on available evidence must necessarily also be evil. In fact, sometimes I feel like we're the primary target, and NASA as an entity, is almost an afterthought.
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