Post by Kiwi on Jul 16, 2005 7:28:03 GMT -4
I've been compiling an index of nearly every scene in this movie and the personnel involved. Its official number is HQ 222, duration 28 minutes.
Of those shown back in Houston, I think I've correctly identified Tony England, Fred Haise, Jim Irwin, Dr Christopher C. Kraft, Gene Kranz, Jim Lovell, Jim McDivitt, Stu Roosa, Jack Schmitt, Dave Scott, Alan Shepard, and Deke Slayton.
Can anyone here help with more names, or guide me to an on-line source that would help? It would be nice to get everyone's names.
For instance:
There is an amusing scene 22:23 from the beginning when Young and Duke are disappearing from sight as they lope toward House Rock. One of the guys who is probably a geologist says, "And as our crew slowly...", which makes everyone burst our laughing, and Jack Schmitt, standing by the wall, says something that's hard to understand, but finishes the line with, "...disappears into the sunset." This guy appears a number of times and I suspect he may be Dr William R. (Bill) Muehlberger. I found a photo of him in the 60s and a more recent one, but neither conclusively identify him.
Near the end, an elderly man who has a black eye patch is shown briefly next to Chris Kraft.
One man appears quite a few times during the CSM's "no circ" crisis. He has straight hair, seems to be high up the pecking order, and is wearing a yellow-brown shirt.
Also during this time a dark-haired older man is seen three times on a telephone.
There may also be a Lee Silver among the geologists in the film, but I don't know what he looked like.
Two guys are being interviewed -- one mentions Ray Bradbury.
If anyone would like a copy of the index, PM me with your email address and I'll send a tab-delimited file so you can put it in a spreadsheet and adjust the times to relate to your particular video tape or DVD.
I may tackle others of the series of movies as time allows. Has anyone come across good-quality copies of them on DVD? I see there are some around that are made from very poor quality films.
Rough sample [square brackets show unidentified people]:
0:32:44 ## Start
0:32:49 ## 16 April 1972
0:33:06 ## Breakfast
0:33:11 ## John Young eating breakfast
0:33:17 ## Ken Mattingly reading cartoons
0:33:23 ## Charles Duke reading newspaper
0:33:29 ## 22 April 1972
0:33:41 ## Rover moving — 16mm film
0:33:53 ## "Yow! Whooo! Man, that was a great big skid. We're doing 10 clicks, Tony." 143:35:53
0:33:58 ## "Covered me with dust on that one." 143:40:36
0:34:00 ## Farouk El Baz wrote on a blackboard: "There is nothing so removed from us to be beyond our reach or so hidden that we cannot discover. — Rene Descartes"
0:34:27 ## Title, "Apollo 16: Nothing So Hidden"
0:34:35 ## End of 16mm film
Later:
0:40:46 ## Moon and terminator from orbit
0:41:01 ## [-], [-]
0:41:07 ## [-]
0:41:11 ## Landing film
0:41:31 ## [-]
0:41:35 ## [-], [-]
0:41:41 ## Landing film continues — "Here comes the shadow" 104:28:39
0:42:11 ## "Boom. Wow. Old Orion is finally here, Houston. Fantastic!" 104:29:35
0:42:18 ## Landing film ends
0:42:19 ## View from the LM
0:42:34 ## 21 April 1972
0:42:35 ## John Young rim-lit in the LM's shadow
0:42:44 ## "Apollo 16 is gonna change your image" 119:04:05
0:42:54 ## Jim Lovell and scientists in the Science Support Room
An interesting thing about this film is that many of the scenes are illustrative only and clearly not intended as a true and accurate record of what was happening. For example, there are the two scenes of the same hill on separate days that Aulis gripe about (though if they had done their homework they'd have found that the dialogue doesn't fit in the second scene), Capcom Tony England appears out of sequence twice, and someone says in reference to a rock, "How about rolling that one over?" and I suspect it may be a Capcom on another mission.
Also, the DAC camera image of John Young rim-lit in the LM's shadow at 0:42:35 in my copy completely blows away some HBs' idea that the detail in the shadows should be completely black.
<Fixed typo and edited to add:>
Other films in the series:
Name No. Duration (minutes)
The Apollo 4 Mission HQa 181
The Flight of Apollo 7 HQ 187 30
Debrief: Apollo 8 HQ 188 28
Apollo 9: The Space Duet of Spider and Gumdrop HQ 189 28.5
Apollo 10: Green Light for a Lunar Landing HQ 190 28.5
Eagle Has Landed: The Flight of Apollo 11 HQ 194 28.5
Apollo 12: Pinpoint for Science HQ 197 28
Apollo 13: 'Houston... We’ve Got a Problem' HQ 200 28
Apollo 14: Mission to Fra Mauro HQ 211 28
Apollo 15: In the Mountains of the Moon HQ 217 28
Apollo 16: Nothing So Hidden HQ 222 28
Apollo 17: On the Shoulders of Giants HQ 227 28
The Time of Apollo HQ 229 28
Of those shown back in Houston, I think I've correctly identified Tony England, Fred Haise, Jim Irwin, Dr Christopher C. Kraft, Gene Kranz, Jim Lovell, Jim McDivitt, Stu Roosa, Jack Schmitt, Dave Scott, Alan Shepard, and Deke Slayton.
Can anyone here help with more names, or guide me to an on-line source that would help? It would be nice to get everyone's names.
For instance:
There is an amusing scene 22:23 from the beginning when Young and Duke are disappearing from sight as they lope toward House Rock. One of the guys who is probably a geologist says, "And as our crew slowly...", which makes everyone burst our laughing, and Jack Schmitt, standing by the wall, says something that's hard to understand, but finishes the line with, "...disappears into the sunset." This guy appears a number of times and I suspect he may be Dr William R. (Bill) Muehlberger. I found a photo of him in the 60s and a more recent one, but neither conclusively identify him.
Near the end, an elderly man who has a black eye patch is shown briefly next to Chris Kraft.
One man appears quite a few times during the CSM's "no circ" crisis. He has straight hair, seems to be high up the pecking order, and is wearing a yellow-brown shirt.
Also during this time a dark-haired older man is seen three times on a telephone.
There may also be a Lee Silver among the geologists in the film, but I don't know what he looked like.
Two guys are being interviewed -- one mentions Ray Bradbury.
If anyone would like a copy of the index, PM me with your email address and I'll send a tab-delimited file so you can put it in a spreadsheet and adjust the times to relate to your particular video tape or DVD.
I may tackle others of the series of movies as time allows. Has anyone come across good-quality copies of them on DVD? I see there are some around that are made from very poor quality films.
Rough sample [square brackets show unidentified people]:
0:32:44 ## Start
0:32:49 ## 16 April 1972
0:33:06 ## Breakfast
0:33:11 ## John Young eating breakfast
0:33:17 ## Ken Mattingly reading cartoons
0:33:23 ## Charles Duke reading newspaper
0:33:29 ## 22 April 1972
0:33:41 ## Rover moving — 16mm film
0:33:53 ## "Yow! Whooo! Man, that was a great big skid. We're doing 10 clicks, Tony." 143:35:53
0:33:58 ## "Covered me with dust on that one." 143:40:36
0:34:00 ## Farouk El Baz wrote on a blackboard: "There is nothing so removed from us to be beyond our reach or so hidden that we cannot discover. — Rene Descartes"
0:34:27 ## Title, "Apollo 16: Nothing So Hidden"
0:34:35 ## End of 16mm film
Later:
0:40:46 ## Moon and terminator from orbit
0:41:01 ## [-], [-]
0:41:07 ## [-]
0:41:11 ## Landing film
0:41:31 ## [-]
0:41:35 ## [-], [-]
0:41:41 ## Landing film continues — "Here comes the shadow" 104:28:39
0:42:11 ## "Boom. Wow. Old Orion is finally here, Houston. Fantastic!" 104:29:35
0:42:18 ## Landing film ends
0:42:19 ## View from the LM
0:42:34 ## 21 April 1972
0:42:35 ## John Young rim-lit in the LM's shadow
0:42:44 ## "Apollo 16 is gonna change your image" 119:04:05
0:42:54 ## Jim Lovell and scientists in the Science Support Room
An interesting thing about this film is that many of the scenes are illustrative only and clearly not intended as a true and accurate record of what was happening. For example, there are the two scenes of the same hill on separate days that Aulis gripe about (though if they had done their homework they'd have found that the dialogue doesn't fit in the second scene), Capcom Tony England appears out of sequence twice, and someone says in reference to a rock, "How about rolling that one over?" and I suspect it may be a Capcom on another mission.
Also, the DAC camera image of John Young rim-lit in the LM's shadow at 0:42:35 in my copy completely blows away some HBs' idea that the detail in the shadows should be completely black.
<Fixed typo and edited to add:>
Other films in the series:
Name No. Duration (minutes)
The Apollo 4 Mission HQa 181
The Flight of Apollo 7 HQ 187 30
Debrief: Apollo 8 HQ 188 28
Apollo 9: The Space Duet of Spider and Gumdrop HQ 189 28.5
Apollo 10: Green Light for a Lunar Landing HQ 190 28.5
Eagle Has Landed: The Flight of Apollo 11 HQ 194 28.5
Apollo 12: Pinpoint for Science HQ 197 28
Apollo 13: 'Houston... We’ve Got a Problem' HQ 200 28
Apollo 14: Mission to Fra Mauro HQ 211 28
Apollo 15: In the Mountains of the Moon HQ 217 28
Apollo 16: Nothing So Hidden HQ 222 28
Apollo 17: On the Shoulders of Giants HQ 227 28
The Time of Apollo HQ 229 28