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Post by PhantomWolf on Sept 26, 2005 7:47:48 GMT -4
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Post by Count Zero on Sept 26, 2005 7:59:54 GMT -4
I really don't think "flourished" is the word. I don't think the Hungarians who battled Soviet tanks in 1956 were flourishing. "Communism dominated Eastern Europe" is a more accurate statement, and in the context of your paragraph it makes a stronger case.
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Post by Bob B. on Sept 26, 2005 9:46:10 GMT -4
Was Peenemunde still the main research site in 1945? I thought operations were largely moved from there after the site was bombed by the allies in 1943(?). I think V-2 production was done mostly in Mittelwerk, though I don’t know if that's where Von Braun and his scientists were located in 1945.
Al Shepard’s flight was on the 5th of May.
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Post by Bob B. on Sept 26, 2005 9:59:45 GMT -4
Re Bob B's chronology, Oct 1968 is the first Soviet manned rendezvous, they'd already carried out two unmanned rendezvous/dockings in Oct 1967 and Apr 1968. The Oct 1968 rendezvous included one unmanned spacecraft, Soyuz 2, and one manned spacecraft, Soyuz 3. Do you know if Soyuz 2 and 3 docked or was it just a rendezvous? Apollo 8 made 10, not 20, lunar orbits. Oops, I was thinking 20 hours when I wrote that.
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Post by Al Johnston on Sept 26, 2005 10:28:55 GMT -4
Looks good H G Well s though...
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Post by gwiz on Sept 26, 2005 11:07:26 GMT -4
The Oct 1968 rendezvous included one unmanned spacecraft, Soyuz 2, and one manned spacecraft, Soyuz 3. Do you know if Soyuz 2 and 3 docked or was it just a rendezvous? No docking, blamed on pilot error, excessive use of fuel during final manual approach.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Sept 26, 2005 13:11:53 GMT -4
H G Well s though... And the title is The First Men in the Moon, not on the Moon. Maybe you want to mention Jules Verne and his stories From the Earth to the Moon and Round the Moon as well. Fred
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Post by Count Zero on Sept 26, 2005 17:51:56 GMT -4
H G Well s though... And the title is The First Men in the Moon, not on the Moon. Maybe you want to mention Jules Verne and his stories From the Earth to the Moon and Round the Moon as well. ...except that the second book was Around the Moon, not Round the Moon.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Sept 27, 2005 4:37:19 GMT -4
Okay. Another update including css sheet added and links to planned pages, though only the first two pages on the list have been done. Any mistakes comments or corrections are always happily welcomed as always. I'll be working on the Early Soviet Program and Soviet Lunar Program pages next so any information there would be appreciated as well. Apollo: The History and The Hoax
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Post by gwiz on Sept 27, 2005 7:59:49 GMT -4
Suggest re Melies film "...trip that Verne had described..."
The H-1 was the individual engine, not the cluster of eight.
NASA didn't actually start operating until Oct 1958 and it didn't take on all the US space projects, just the ones with little or no military application.
I've never heard Shepard's mission called "Mercury 1", suggest either "the first Mercury" or "Mercury MR-3".
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Post by Nowhere Man on Sept 27, 2005 8:46:23 GMT -4
...except that the second book was Around the Moon, not Round the Moon. Well, now, that all depends on who's doing the translating, doesn't it? If you want to get picky, the true titles are De la Terre à la Lune and Autour de la Lune. I've seen far more instances of Round the Moon than I have of Around the Moon. In this case, "round" and "around" mean the same thing, English speaking shortcuts being what they are. So there . Fred
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Post by rocketdad on Sept 27, 2005 11:41:26 GMT -4
I like your idea. I think you need to mention Tsialkovski (or however you spell it) who figured out the math back in the 1890's, inspiring Dr. von Braun and many others to start building. I think Jules Verne used his numbers to design the cannon in his story.
It may seem flippant to include the fiction, but dreamers took us to the moon, and bureaucrats and politicians held us back to appease small-minded voters like margamatix.
Also, your pages might be a good place to put some of the informational links that have been posted thoughout the threads; not the hoax-debunking links but stuff like the apollo image catalogs, ask-a-rocket-scientist, Astronomy Picture Of The Day, and nasa's high-school aerospace program. Facts, you know. Also, a link to a logical-fallacy page would be good.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Sept 27, 2005 12:21:04 GMT -4
I've redone the pages listing and added images for each of them. I'm not sure about the Apollo 11 one, might change it to -the- Buzz image, just because it's more recognisable. Most non-Apollo people would be unlikely to understand the thumbnail picture I have used.
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Post by gwiz on Sept 27, 2005 12:32:22 GMT -4
...and perhaps the earthrise picture for Apollo 8, the jumping salute for Apollo 16.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Sept 27, 2005 12:45:18 GMT -4
...and perhaps the earthrise picture for Apollo 8, the jumping salute for Apollo 16. I deliberately avoided those since I have used them, or simlar for title banners.
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