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Post by Kiwi on Jul 23, 2007 6:44:19 GMT -4
I just noticed: The phase of the moon is almost exactly the same as it was on this date in 1969. I'm pretty sure that you can see the moon exactly as it was when the Apollo 11 astronauts there, in the movie "Woodstock." On my DVD "Woodstock - Three Days of Peace and Music", 3:35:05, it can be seen in a small multi-screen view in Chapter 6 from 0:11:50 to 0:12:09. I had completely forgotten about this until bought the DVD last October, and on seeing the moon, remembered that when I saw the movie in a theatre in 1970, I thought, "That's cool, seeing it when the astronauts were there." There must have been some publicity that mentioned the clip at the time the film was showing. I've not been able to confirm it on the internet (perhaps somebody who's registered at IMDB could), but I did find that the guy who filmed the movie, Michael Wadleigh, was out filming in the Wyoming mountains around 20 July 1969. The moon's position and phase checks out in software, and although the phase was similar just after the Woodstock festival, it seems that the weather may have been too cloudy for the moon to be filmed in August 1969. There's a bit more information in this thread, posts 1 and 5.
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Post by echnaton on Jul 23, 2007 10:56:36 GMT -4
I'm pretty sure that you can see the moon exactly as it was when the Apollo 11 astronauts there, in the movie "Woodstock." Doesn't that just mean that Woodstock was a hoax? The film could have been shot anywhere. Most of the bands played several outdoor festivals that year and clips could have been taken from all the others and put together to make it appear as if it was in one place just to sell the movie. After all how many people really know someone who claims to have been there? Inquiring minds want to know!
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Post by gwiz on Aug 5, 2007 5:34:20 GMT -4
40 years ago today NASA's fifth and final Lunar Orbiter probe was placed in a near-polar orbit around the moon. This was a mission to fill the gaps left by the earlier missions in the series, focusing on the most promising sites for the first Apollo landings and areas of particular scientific interest. In addition, the remaining parts of the far side of the moon were photographed. The tracking data gave the first indications of the irregularities in the lunar gravity field due to mass concentrations, mascons, caused by giant impact events.
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Post by Obviousman on Aug 6, 2007 4:16:08 GMT -4
I'm pretty sure that you can see the moon exactly as it was when the Apollo 11 astronauts there, in the movie "Woodstock." Doesn't that just mean that Woodstock was a hoax? The film could have been shot anywhere. Most of the bands played several outdoor festivals that year and clips could have been taken from all the others and put together to make it appear as if it was in one place just to sell the movie. After all how many people really know someone who claims to have been there? Inquiring minds want to know! Been there, done that..... educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9443
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Post by Kiwi on Aug 6, 2007 8:50:27 GMT -4
Aha, but we did it here first! You'd better post the link at the Education Forum so the members there can see more evidence for the Woodstock fakery. Edited to add: Loved the bit about Joe Cocker's guitar being blanked out. Never thought of it that way! Actually, another argument for a faked Woodstock is that if it was for real, it's obvious from the movie that Joe Cocker would have been dead by 1979 from callouses on his vocal chords.
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Post by echnaton on Aug 6, 2007 9:06:21 GMT -4
I'm pretty sure that you can see the moon exactly as it was when the Apollo 11 astronauts there, in the movie "Woodstock." Doesn't that just mean that Woodstock was a hoax? The film could have been shot anywhere. Most of the bands played several outdoor festivals that year and clips could have been taken from all the others and put together to make it appear as if it was in one place just to sell the movie. After all how many people really know someone who claims to have been there? Inquiring minds want to know! Been there, done that..... educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9443You guys on the education forum are good. Unfortunately it is impossible to truly parody the HB crowd. On thing about comparing the Woodstock hoax and the moon hoax is that the moon photos, the lighting stays the same, while at Woodstock the lighting changes all the time. You would think the hoaxers could at least get constant lighting between productions.
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Post by Waspie_Dwarf on Aug 22, 2007 6:16:18 GMT -4
Today is the 50th anniversary of the first successful flight of the Soviet Union's R-7 ICBM. This rocket would later launch Sputnik 1, Yuri Gagarin in Vostok 1 and remains in service today as the Soyuz launch vehicle. Link to S.P. Korolev RSC Energia story on the anniversary: www.energia.ru/eng/news/news-2007/news_08-21.html
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Post by gwiz on Sept 8, 2007 10:04:52 GMT -4
Today is 40 years since the launch of Surveyor 5, which, after some fancy ground command work to cope with a pressurant leak, carried out NASA's third successful unmanned lunar touchdown three days later. It was the first Surveyor to carry an instrument which analysed the chemical content of the lunar soil from its response to bombardment with alpha particles.
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Post by gwiz on Sept 27, 2007 14:49:33 GMT -4
It's 40 years today since the first operational Zond mission, following two test missions earlier in 1967. It was a Russian attempt to fly a spacecraft round the moon and return it to earth. Unfortunately, the one of the six motors in the first stage of the Proton launch vehicle failed to ignite. The procedure at the time was apparently not to check for this before committing to launch. The vehicle veered off course and gave the launch escape system an unscheduled test.
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Post by macapple on Sept 28, 2007 7:47:01 GMT -4
On this day 40 years ago a russian unmanned mission took off for the moon....and guess what it failed. I think it was a Zond probe.
Sept. 28, 1967 7K-L1 / 4L UR-500 Failed after T+56 seconds.
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Post by gwiz on Sept 28, 2007 11:13:54 GMT -4
On this day 40 years ago a russian unmanned mission took off for the moon....and guess what it failed. I think it was a Zond probe. Sept. 28, 1967 7K-L1 / 4L UR-500 Failed after T+56 seconds. Same as the one I mentioned in the previous post. I have the launch time as 2212 GMT on the 27th. What's your source for the 28th?
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Post by Waspie_Dwarf on Sept 28, 2007 11:19:08 GMT -4
Same as the one I mentioned in the previous post. I have the launch time as 2212 GMT on the 27th. What's your source for the 28th? 22:12 GMT on the 27th would be the 28th Moscow time.
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Post by macapple on Sept 28, 2007 13:53:18 GMT -4
Same as the one I mentioned in the previous post. I have the launch time as 2212 GMT on the 27th. What's your source for the 28th? 22:12 GMT on the 27th would be the 28th Moscow time. the source is as follows www.russianspaceweb.com/spacecraft_planetary_lunar.htmlSorry i was quoting local time and not GMT or CET. You are quite right in that the launch was at 22:12 GMT on the 27th in the UK. Baikonur is +6 on GMT so 22:12 would be 4:12 am 28th Sept local time.
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Post by gwiz on Oct 18, 2007 7:26:32 GMT -4
Today is the 40th anniversary of the arrival of the Russian Venyera 4 probe at Venus. It was a lander attempt, but was crushed while still descending on its parachute due to lack of knowledge of the true high pressure at Venus' surface. Nevertheless, it produced the first direct measurements of conditions in another planetary atmosphere.
HBs who claim that the Russians were far ahead of the US in space technology at this time might care to note that the Russians launched their first planetary probe in 1960, and that Venyera 4 was their 18th attempt and first success. The US launched their first probe in 1962 and had success with their 2nd attempt in the same year.
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Post by gwiz on Oct 27, 2007 8:05:50 GMT -4
Another 40th anniversary today, of the Russians resuming Soyuz testing with an unmanned version of the rendezvous originally planned in April. The active craft, named Kosmos 186 was launched first followed by the target craft, Kosmos 188, three days later. As with earlier Soyuz tests, the attitude control system gave problems. The rendezvous went well, but after the initial "soft" docking an unexpected attitude manoeuvre damaged the docking system so that it proved impossible to get a rigid connection. After undocking Kosmos 186 successfully re-entered and landed, but Kosmos 188 re-entry was off-target due to attitude control problems and the vehicle was destroyed to prevent it landing in China.
In spite of the problems, this was the first automatic rendezvous and docking, a point worth mentioning to HBs who cast doubt on the abilities of 1960s robotic technology.
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