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Post by PhantomWolf on Aug 14, 2005 8:02:53 GMT -4
That sounds like you are speaking from experience Jay, lol
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Post by scooter on Aug 14, 2005 10:18:16 GMT -4
Greetings Obviousman,
The airframe that Jack contends hit the Pentagon was the Douglas A-3 Skywarrior, a large carrier based twin engine, highwing aircraft. This all seems to be based on a chunk of fan disk found at the scene which he feels is just too small to have come from the large Rolls Royce turbofan (erroneously referred to as turbojet) engines of the 757. The 757 engine fans are NOT 8 feet in diameter...as he claims. The A-3 entered Navy service in 1956, serving in numerous roles until decomissioning in 1991. Raytheon still has "some" airframes flying as system test aircraft apparently . (amazing what a brief internet search will turn up) A little silver paint, some decals and you have an AA 757 look alike...not!! He's really picking at straws...again.
Dave
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Post by skinbath on Sept 1, 2005 12:21:53 GMT -4
I was checking over some questions I had and took a look at the site again.It seems Jack has altered one of his pages in that previously,it was strongly intimated that the two guys shown here were one and the same, www.911studies.com/911photostudies3.htm (the priest and the guy in the blue shirt below,which in the original page were shown as head shots). the previous assertion was at .....7htm .........but he `s apparently no longer saying this,(or at least,I can`t find it,though I`ve not spent hours searching)in which it was suggested that they (or rather he had changed his clothing and were one and the same) Has anyone noticed if he`s changed anything else?Or is he the type of guy that changes his points as regularly as his socks? This could of course be proof that a human version of mr potato head is alive and well..!
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Post by rocketdad on Sept 1, 2005 13:56:23 GMT -4
My extensive research (looking at a couple of 9/11 conspiracy sites one afternoon) leads me to a conclusion:
Many people think airplanes are made of old Ford trucks, with big steel i-beams.
I have a quick test I'd love to try, but I value my clean police record: Strap together a dummy "plane" out of beercans and tape. Put kerosene in the wings and light wicks to simulate the combustion/kinetic energy of the jet motors. Fire it at a concrete-block wall with a spud-gun. Repeat until you actually crack a brick. How much damage did the wings do?
But that would be the scientific method, and I've already been disparaged by BS's alias Don Smith for my dysfunctional reliance on math and facts.
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Post by frenat on Sept 11, 2005 16:24:23 GMT -4
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Post by echnaton on Sept 11, 2005 18:26:58 GMT -4
Well its good to know that he is consistently ignorant.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Sept 11, 2005 23:53:19 GMT -4
Well I'll give Jack one thing. Several levies were blown up. However, this was after the flooding and after the waters in the canel were lower than the water in the city. They were blown so that the water would flow out of the city and back into the canels.
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Post by PeterB on Sept 12, 2005 0:13:40 GMT -4
If you look at the picture where he's circled a destroyed levee, you can see the gables of a couple of houses within about 30 metres of the levee. Would it be possible to blow a hole in a levee without seriously damaging nearby houses? I assume you'd put the explosives on the far side of the levee to the houses, and only blow a small hole, letting nature do its thing. But even so, it seems very unlikely to inexpert me.
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Post by colinr on Sept 12, 2005 4:07:43 GMT -4
The understatement of all time - contained in one of Jack's posts
"I am certainly no engineering expert!"
Never a truer word spoken...........
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Post by frenat on Sept 12, 2005 7:03:56 GMT -4
The latest from Jack. He apparaently thinks that because he lives 15 miles west of Dallas Fort Worth that he will only ever see flights going East or West coming from or going to DFW. He actually said I wasn't a thinking person for suggesting that he might see some going North or South coming from or going to Houston, Austin, or San Antonio all of which are cities South of him.
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Post by ajv on Sept 12, 2005 18:59:18 GMT -4
Oh, if anyone is interested, the B/W image in Jack's Undeniable proof of Apollo photo fakery! thread which has already been debunked and retracted is AS17-138-21099 - one of the mylar reflection photos.
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Post by hubcapdave69 on Sept 12, 2005 19:53:01 GMT -4
I couldn't believe he posted that! It didn't take me but a minute to figure out his error and call him on it!
I'm even more amazed he retracted the claim!
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Post by Count Zero on Sept 14, 2005 6:32:27 GMT -4
I guess it was "deniable" after all...
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Post by Obviousman on Oct 7, 2005 23:36:44 GMT -4
Jack is now posting his "studies" (what a joke using that word and Jack's work in the same sentence) on the WTC collapse; and guess what? He has found 'irrefutable' photographic evidence that the WTC collapse was not as the report showed! Amazing! One man, so immensly talented in the photographic field that he has managed to find 'evidence' of 'fakery' in the JFK affair, the Apollo programme, the Pentegon attack, the WTC attack, the New Orleans floods, etc. He's even positively identified 'chemtrails' over his house. No doubt part of a concerted government effort to shut him up. BLUK! I knew I couldn't say that without leaving a bad taste in my mouth.......
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Post by craiglamson on Oct 11, 2005 12:20:44 GMT -4
Evan...can you still get into the education forum? It looks like my account has been banned.
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