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Post by turbonium on Sept 9, 2005 22:20:00 GMT -4
I discovered that Kennedy and Lincoln each once lived in the same house!Even more bizarre - upon further research, I found out that virtually every President has indeed lived in that very same house!! And they were all President of the United States during the time they lived there!!
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Post by echnaton on Sept 9, 2005 22:26:01 GMT -4
So Jay, that means that we can add to the list of remarkable “coincidences” that both Kennedy and Lincoln were shoot while seated and died lying down. And guess what, McKinley and Garfield were shot while standing, so not one President was killed while prone. Although we could wonder why a certain former President was not throttled in his sleep by his wife.
I also remember seeing a list of “coincidences” between Bush, the elder, and Mexican President Miguel de la Madrid, who was also elected in 1982. The propose was to display the silliness of believing the Lincoln / Kennedy connection. Some of the coincidences were obviously a stretch while others were quite striking.
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Post by turbonium on Sept 9, 2005 22:33:54 GMT -4
I agree with Jay on this - cherry-picking your criteria for comparisons, you can create any number of "coincidences" between almost any two people.
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Post by JayUtah on Sept 9, 2005 23:04:21 GMT -4
I'm glad we can agree on something.
We can't ignore anomalies or apparent coincidences. But we have to use our best judgment and experience to put them into proper context. Every occurrence has anomalies, and every two or more occurrences have coincidence. The mere fact that these occur isn't necessarily suspicious.
The hardest part of investigation is to eliminate or justify assumptions, and the hardest part of that is recognizing what assumptions you're making. It's harder than you think, which is why even the most seasoned investigators and researchers rely on each other to review their research.
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Post by Dead Hoosiers on Sept 9, 2005 23:56:40 GMT -4
Why not? It discussed the circumstances of their deaths, and explained why their deaths were unsuspicious (apart from a couple where investigations are continuing). It didn't say where they got THEIR information. It didn't give much detail about the circumstances surrounding the deaths. It chose the ones that were the easiest to explain away and the most difficult to find information about. The people they listed who are still walking around are still walking around because they went PUBLIC, and that saved their lives. Kenneth Starr, as we CTs have reason to believe, is one of "THEM." For starters.
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Post by Data Cable on Sept 10, 2005 0:26:08 GMT -4
The people they listed who are still walking around are still walking around because they went PUBLIC, and that saved their lives. The salient point being, why were they allowed to live that long? Isn't the point of this alleged conspiracy to kill those that could dammage Clinton publicaly before they go public?
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Post by JayUtah on Sept 10, 2005 0:33:10 GMT -4
It didn't say where they got THEIR information.
There is a bibliography and embedded links. The article clearly spells out that the research has been done primarily by news organizations who write stories on the list.
You aren't upset when your conspiracy sites reproduce anonymous information. Why do you suddenly care now?
It didn't give much detail about the circumstances surrounding the deaths.
That only matters if they leave out important details that they know about. That's why they list their references, in case someone wants more information.
It chose the ones that were the easiest to explain away and the most difficult to find information about.
No, it honestly reported which deaths could be explained and which could not.
The people they listed who are still walking around are still walking around because they went PUBLIC, and that saved their lives.
Then they don't belong on a "body count" list. Subversion of support. It doesn't matter why they're alive; only that they are. This and the other explained deaths show that the conspiracists are padding their list without doing any verification themselves.
Can you show that those who report this list did any research to support their claims?
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