Rockefeller Predicted 9-11 False-Flag Event

[wingerii]

911truth said:

frenat said:

So basically you drop by every few months to seagull post then never stick around to discuss anything? Seems like you need to wake up. In the real world people discuss things.

Responses like this are why I don't stick around to "discuss". The best I can do is try to wake up a few lurkers. Most posters here have a knee-jerk reaction to conspiracy theories, regardless of the evidence, unless they are stamped as "official" by the government. For example, some people would rather believe the Warren Commission's "magic bullet" theory of the Kennedy assassination, despite its absurdity, just because it's the officially sanctioned theory. Same goes for 9-11.

And this sweeping generalization not a knee-jerk reaction how...?

[LunarOrbit]

911truth said:

Most posters here have a knee-jerk reaction to conspiracy theories, regardless of the evidence, unless they are stamped as "official" by the government.

Conspiracy theorists are far more guilty of knee-jerk reactions, they tend to believe that if something has an official government stamp of approval then it automatically can't be trusted.

[stutefish]

Hi there, 911.

I'm a lurker (a chatty lurker, but a lurker nonetheless).

What wakes me up is discussion. Detailed analysis of things really opens my eyes.

[gwen]

admin said:

911truth said:

Most posters here have a knee-jerk reaction to conspiracy theories, regardless of the evidence, unless they are stamped as "official" by the government.

Conspiracy theorists are far more guilty of knee-jerk reactions, they tend to believe that if something has an official government stamp of approval then it automatically can't be trusted.

Haha they're spot on! Where they botch it, wholly, is who, what, where and why. Erm, or some only want to sell books and know how to do it into a scientifically clueless downmarket.

[gillianren]

Yeah, you know, the US government has gotten things right before. Not everything, but I find it awfully closed-minded to keep harping on its evils given that they, you know, fed large amounts of Europe in the late 40s.

[gwen]

gillianren said:

Yeah, you know, the US government has gotten things right before. Not everything, but I find it awfully closed-minded to keep harping on its evils given that they, you know, fed large amounts of Europe in the late 40s.

Truth be told, they knew if they didn't, the entire starving continent (with the possible exceptions of Switzerland and Scandinavia) would have gone communist and fallen under Joe Stalin's military sphere of influence. Anyone who thinks the Marshall plan was mostly altruism is naive, it was mostly realpolitik (and welcomed as such by many Europeans).

[gillianren]

So the motive wasn't 100% pure. Are yours always?

How about rural electrification? The Civilian Conservation Corps? The Federal Theatre Project? The Federal Writers' Project? Heck, Apollo and Hubble, when you get right down to it. Sometimes, even the "corrupt US government" did good things, and it would be nice if there could be some balance seen. (I'll start listing bad things the government has done, too, but I think you'd beat me to it.)

[gwen]

gillianren said:

So the motive wasn't 100% pure. Are yours always?

How about rural electrification? The Civilian Conservation Corps? The Federal Theatre Project? The Federal Writers' Project? Heck, Apollo and Hubble, when you get right down to it. Sometimes, even the "corrupt US government" did good things, and it would be nice if there could be some balance seen. (I'll start listing bad things the government has done, too, but I think you'd beat me to it.)

Pure? Who said anything about pure? Anyway yeah, what about those things?

[gillianren]

"Rural electrification" was a process of modernizing the poor rural South. The Civilian Conservation Corps and the Federal Writers and Theatre Project were part of FDR's make-work programs designed to haul the US out of the Depression. For one, they were programs intended to help those left destitute in the Crash earn a living wage--it was well known that the wages on federal programs were better than the wates most others earned--as well as doing such things as planting trees in the West, documenting the lives of the last living former slaves, and staging Shakespeare in Harlem.

Actually--I did a project about it in college--quite a lot of great American actors first found work in the Federal Theatre Project, and quite a lot of people who'd never seen live theatre before first did when the roving FTP shows came through their tiny towns in Middle-Of-Nowhere, USA.

I think, despite the fact that their most obvious intention was reversing crippling economic decay, that all three of those programs were really good things. All three were from the US government. That means that the US government did really good things. Apollo, Hubble, and various other US-financed space programs have increased the knowledge of the human race and provided lots of technology that's helping to make human lives better.

And yes, there's a shameful US history of imperialism and civil rights abuse that continues through to this day that we have to make up for. But, as my best friend tends to point out when this topic comes up, the US is a very young country. The early histories of most countries tend to be checkered at best.

[gwen]

gillianren said:

"Rural electrification" was a process of modernizing the poor rural South. The Civilian Conservation Corps and the Federal Writers and Theatre Project were part of FDR's make-work programs... Apollo, Hubble, and various other US-financed space programs have increased the knowledge of the human race... there's a shameful US history of imperialism and civil rights abuse that continues through to this day... the US is a very young country. The early histories of most countries tend to be checkered at best.

My take is... stuff that worked out ok did because most people are, one way or another, by nature basically rather cool (natural selection is a wonder, no?), despite being held hostage to the protection rackets of gangsters, albeit some of those have been more helpful than others. Thus has it ever been through recorded history, by the bye. Someday maybe we'll grow up, if they don't blow us up first, along with our lazy thinking ways.

[911: Inside Job]

911truth said:

Here's an update to the original story:

Rockefeller Admitted Elite Goal Of Microchipped Population

In the article, elitist Rockefeller admits to Russo that the War on Terror is a hoax:

Russo states that Rockefeller told him, "Eleven months before 9/11 happened there was going to be an event and out of that event we were going to invade Afghanistan to run pipelines through the Caspian sea, we were going to invade Iraq to take over the oil fields and establish a base in the Middle East, and we'd go after Chavez in Venezuela."

Rockefeller also told Russo that he would see soldiers looking in caves in Afghanistan and Pakistan for Osama bin Laden and that there would be an "Endless war on terror where there's no real enemy and the whole thing is a giant hoax," so that "the government could take over the American people," according to Russo, who said that Rockefeller was cynically laughing and joking as he made the astounding prediction.

Nothing to worry about here folks, just go back to sleep.

Here's a photo of the two (Aaron Russo on the left) for the "skeptics" who claim this is just a paranoid delusion. The guy on the right wants to microchip your children like cattle.

Russo is dying of cancer. That's probably why he's decided to come forward with this information - they can't kill him twice.

[PeterB]

G'day 911:IJ. The original article said that:

People know that 9/11 was an inside job," said Russo, "…they killed thousands of Americans - people jumping out of windows from a hundred floors up - they don't care," said the director.

and

"There's no way that Building 7 came down without a controlled demolition, it takes weeks to do the controlled demolition,"

At the time, I asked:

If “they don’t care”, why didn’t they knock over Building 7 straight away? Why wait for it to be evacuated? In fact, why wait for WTCs 1 and 2 to be evacuated? Those evacuations saved thousands of lives.

This is the problem - the theory contradicts itself. Can you clarify this, please.

[911: Inside Job]

peterb said:

G'day 911:IJ. The original article said that:

People know that 9/11 was an inside job," said Russo, "…they killed thousands of Americans - people jumping out of windows from a hundred floors up - they don't care," said the director.

and

At the time, I asked:

If “they don’t care”, why didn’t they knock over Building 7 straight away? Why wait for it to be evacuated? In fact, why wait for WTCs 1 and 2 to be evacuated? Those evacuations saved thousands of lives.

This is the problem - the theory contradicts itself. Can you clarify this, please.

There's no contradiction. Their primary goal wasn't loss of life, it was an at-first-glance plausible-looking terrorist attack that could be blamed on middle eastern extremists. Dropping WTC 7 too soon would look suspicious, since it hadn't been hit by a plane. And they did hope for more loss of life. That's why people were being told over the PA system to return to their offices in the south tower before the 2nd plane hit. Fortunately, many people had enough sense to not listen.

I suspect that building 7 was intended to be leveled that day, as it would conveniently cover up the evidence that the whole operation was being run from that building. It housed CIA offices and Giuliani's emergency bunker. One theory is that the WTC 7 contained a radio beacon that helped guide the jets into the twin towers by remote control.

[PhantomWolf]

That's why people were being told over the PA system to return to their offices before the 2nd plane hit.
Gee and there was me thinking that it was the more simple explaination that since the Second Tower wasn't in any known danger prior to the second plane hitting, and that everyone previous to that point thought it was an accident, that all meant that they didn't want all the people from Tower 2 getting in the way of the evacuation of Building One.

[911: Inside Job]

phantomwolf said:

That's why people were being told over the PA system to return to their offices before the 2nd plane hit.
Gee and there was me thinking that it was the more simple explaination that since the Second Tower wasn't in any known danger prior to the second plane hitting, and that everyone previous to that point thought it was an accident, that all meant that they didn't want all the people from Tower 2 getting in the way of the evacuation of Building One.

I suppose having all the emergency doors leading to the roof locked, in violation of the fire codes, was just an innocent mistake too.