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Post by gillianren on Apr 28, 2007 3:56:19 GMT -4
Assuming that's really Cho, I would suggest the possibility that he could have bought the military fatigues through an army surplus store. Or even just an ex-military guy's yard sale.
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Post by Data Cable on Apr 28, 2007 4:12:13 GMT -4
He seem to have a military background.Or the US Marines uniform is a copy.(simili) Or, it's not him at all, since the name on that uniform is Hu.
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Post by Jason on Apr 28, 2007 12:52:10 GMT -4
And I believe he chose VT as his target because that's where his anger formed. If he had some kind of insane grievance against Wal-Mart he probably would have targeted them instead. Point taken. Making guns completely illegal in the U.S. is not going to happen without a constitutional ammendment (one that I would not support anyway). Given that, it becomes a question of whether having supposed "gun free zones" does more harm than good, since it effectively tells the criminals and maniacs that their law-abiding victims will be without firearms there. Perhaps I have too great a faith in the ability of people to act responsibly, but I see removing the possibility of defending yourself as a greater evil than allowing the possiblity of irresponsible gun use.
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Post by feelfree222 on Apr 28, 2007 15:31:36 GMT -4
He seem to have a military background.Or the US Marines uniform is a copy.(simili) Or, it's not him at all, since the name on that uniform is Hu. Well, his full name his Cho Seung-Hui The i letter seem out of wiew on the picture. Do you notice the guy on his right have carefully hidden the identification on his uniform. CNN www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1611169,00.html Cho had recently developed an interest in firearms. According to a Roanoke, Va., news site, a police affidavit says Cho possessed Walther P22 and Glock 9 mm handguns — both expensive, accurate guns favored by gun enthusiasts and cops. One federal source told TIME it appears that as many as "a couple of hundred" rounds were fired during the rampage. Cho's extraordinary killing effectiveness suggests someone who was trained, or who trained himself, in "execution-style" killing, according to the federal source. Apparent contradiction: If it is true than Cho had recently developed an interest in firearms. How he was able to be so well trained in so less time?
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Post by feelfree222 on Apr 28, 2007 15:41:15 GMT -4
Given that, it becomes a question of whether having supposed "gun free zones" does more harm than good, since it effectively tells the criminals and maniacs that their law-abiding victims will be without firearms there. Perhaps I have too great a faith in the ability of people to act responsibly, but I see removing the possibility of defending yourself as a greater evil than allowing the possiblity of irresponsible gun use. Here in Canada at least in the Montreal aera and region there is a new phenomena -called home invasion- since the new gun law application which in fact control more the arms used by the hunters than those of the criminals . People cannot defends at home against criminal invading their home. The law goes like this: arms must be empty of munitions and locked in a armoire. the bullets must be kept in another location. That was the results of 1 billion 500 millions dollars for the application of the law
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Post by gillianren on Apr 28, 2007 15:43:21 GMT -4
That was the results of 1 billion 500 millions dollars for the application of the law Can you clarify what you're talking about in this line? It doesn't make any sense.
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Post by feelfree222 on Apr 28, 2007 15:53:57 GMT -4
That was the results of 1 billion 500 millions dollars for the application of the law Can you clarify what you're talking about in this line? It doesn't make any sense. Ooops,I should have writed 1,5 billion dollars That is the actual cost in 2007 for the application of the new gun law here in Canada. 1,500,000,000 $ -In his application the Canadian gun registry program control more the arms used by the hunters than those of the criminals .- canadaonline.about.com/od/guncontrol/i/gunregistry.htmA preliminary audit released in the Auditor General Report 2002 revealed that the Department of Justice was estimating the gun registry program would cost more than $1 billion by 2004-05, and collect about $140 million in fees. This estimate did not include all financial impacts on the government.
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Post by Jason on Apr 28, 2007 21:29:05 GMT -4
Nice photo-shopped image. Pitty they forgot that it's HUI, not HU.
Cho was good with his firearms because he practiced at a firing range in Roanoke after he purchased them.
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Post by LunarOrbit on Apr 28, 2007 22:29:57 GMT -4
Besides, wouldn't it be his family name (Cho) on the uniform, not his given name? Cho Seung-Hui is the Korean way of writing his name, which places the family name first. This confuses english people because we put the family name last. From Wikipedia: And just to show that it is the surname that goes on the uniform, here is a picture of Jessica Lynch: It was surprisingly hard to find a good picture of a soldier that clearly shows the name on the uniform. The first two I found were ambiguous... the names were "Thomas" and "Scott", both of which can be first or last names.
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Post by gillianren on Apr 29, 2007 2:21:01 GMT -4
All of Graham's uniforms say "Berry" on them; however, his stuff from his day job says "Graham" about half the time due to the employer's confusion about whether his name is "Graham Berry" or "Berry Graham."
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Post by wingerii on Apr 29, 2007 9:22:46 GMT -4
"Berry Graham" would probably make for a delicious breakfast cereal.
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Post by Data Cable on Apr 29, 2007 10:14:24 GMT -4
Well, his full name his Cho Seung-Hui Yes, his surname, the name which would appear on a US Marine's uniform, is Cho, not Sueng, not Hui, not Seung-Hui, and certainly not Hu. No, the i letter is not out of wiew. It isn't in the name. The name on that uniform is Hu. Not Cho. I don't see anyone on his (Hu's) right. I see someone on Hu's left, though. Hu is standing in front of him. Hu is not transparent. Ergo, the other marine's nametag isn't visible. So what? Do you notice that both of them have "carefully hidden" the backs of their heads, as well? Do you notice the guy on the right of the guy on Hu's left (that's Hu) has carefully put the identification on his uniform in plain view? Do you also notice that that identification does not read "Cho"?
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Post by feelfree222 on Apr 29, 2007 15:49:58 GMT -4
Well, his full name his Cho Seung-Hui Yes, his surname, the name which would appear on a US Marine's uniform, is Cho, not Sueng, not Hui, not Seung-Hui, and certainly not Hu. Note than my post was made before that the clarification about Cho name was made by Lunar Orbit. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cho_Seung-huiNo, the i letter is not out of wiew. It isn't in the name. The name on that uniform is Hu. Not Cho. Ok, dont worry be happy ;D I don't see anyone on his (Hu's) right. I see someone on Hu's left, though. Hu is standing in front of him. Hu is not transparent. Ergo, the other marine's nametag isn't visible. So what? Do you notice that both of them have "carefully hidden" the backs of their heads, as well? Do you notice the guy on the right of the guy on Hu's left (that's Hu) has carefully put the identification on his uniform in plain view? Do you also notice that that identification does not read "Cho"? "Nice" observation.So they are not side by side?Hu (not Cho)is on the left on the picture.So the other guy which hide the indentifications on his uniform is at the right of Hu on the picture Right? Yes Hu could hide the name of the other guy but he cannot hide at the same time the US Marines inscription. But that is a moot point now than we know than Cho Seung-Hui is in fact Seung-Hui Cho also known as Cho Seung-Hui or Seung Cho Right? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cho_Seung-hui
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Post by gillianren on Apr 29, 2007 16:55:53 GMT -4
"Berry Graham" would probably make for a delicious breakfast cereal. Yes, one of our former co-workers came up with that one, too. "Graham Berry's Berry Grahams," he called it. And didn't find it as tedious as he normally finds jokes made about his name, because the guy came up with this whole thing about trading cards on the back of the box that was pretty funny. And Feelfree, I think you missed the point of one particular clarification. It's not a matter of not being side-by-side; it's that you identified the other man as being on Hu's right, and he isn't. He's on our right as we look at the picture; he's on Hu's left.
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Post by feelfree222 on Apr 29, 2007 17:20:05 GMT -4
And Feelfree, I think you missed the point of one particular clarification. It's not a matter of not being side-by-side; it's that you identified the other man as being on Hu's right, and he isn't. He's on our right as we look at the picture; he's on Hu's left. I know that.But the other guy is hiding the inscription on his uniform.That was the point.Which is not really important now that we know since Lunar Orbit pointed out than Cho Seung-Hui is in fact Seung-Hui Cho also known as Cho Seung-Hui or Seung Cho Right? Just for clarification All that story about that photo which was originally posted on Wikipedia came from there tinyurl.com/yqylfc
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