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Post by 911: Inside Job on Sept 10, 2007 22:14:04 GMT -4
New Bin Laden Video: 100% ForgeryComputer Expert: Bin Laden Dead, Tape Is Old FootageThis video is pure intelligence propaganda. The only time current events are mentioned by "OBL" is when the video image is frozen. How stupid do they think we are? Quoting the article: Osama Bin Laden's widely publicized video address to the American people has a peculiarity that casts serious doubt on its authenticity: the video freezes at about 1 minute and 58 seconds, and motion only resumes again at 12:30. The video then freezes again at 14:02 remains frozen until the end. All references to current events, such as the 62nd anniversary of the U.S. atomic bombing of Japan, and Sarkozy and Brown being the leaders of France and the UK, respectively, occur when the video is frozen! The words spoken when the video is in motion contain no references to contemporary events and could have been (and likely were) made before the U.S. invasion of Iraq. Notice how the lame-stream media doesn't even mention the video freezes, assuming (hoping) most people won't take the trouble to watch it for themselves. Conveniently for the Bush regime, "OBL" now supports the theory that the US occupation of Iraq is keeping his terrorists too busy to cause trouble elsewhere. Whatever the neo-cons are paying the ghost of OBL, it's not enough.
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Jason
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Post by Jason on Sept 10, 2007 23:57:08 GMT -4
Phhhhth hah hah hah! You make me laugh.
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Post by Grand Lunar on Sept 11, 2007 7:24:35 GMT -4
See Jason, what did I say? OMG! I must have paranormal abilities! I saw into the future about the CTs reaction! Quick, get me James Randi! I have proof! Prooooooof! And I want my $1 million! And now, back to your life.
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Post by Jason on Sept 11, 2007 11:03:21 GMT -4
Sorry GL, but I'm unimpressed. It doesn't take paranormal abilities to forecast the reactions of the hoax believer crowd.
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Post by lenbrazil on Sept 11, 2007 15:41:08 GMT -4
Actually he’s right most of the video is of a still in which he doesn’t move though he is moving during the part where he spoke about the ‘19 young Arabs who changed the compass on 9/11’ (not an exact quote). He stops moving in the 1st part after about 1:54 and doesn’t move again till about 3:30 into the 2nd and the stops again. That is quite odd. Hard to believe the CIA or whoever would have faked a tape like that because they pretty easily could have made a more realistic looking one. Sill it is quite odd that and the fact that the media haven’t said anything about it (that I’ve seen at least) perhaps it was a technical glitch, perhaps it’s a psy-op on their part, perhaps it was faked by a group with limited technical abilities. I noticed the freezing in an ABC video as well so it not some truther hoax. Part 1 www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-b7vu9m_ Part 2 www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcLd2itZqPM Part 3 www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJe796qrUzU
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Post by 911: Inside Job on Sept 11, 2007 15:43:08 GMT -4
Nice counter-arguments. You guys (lenbrazil excluded) win the credulity awards for believing whatever is placed in front of you by the mainstream media as "fact". I suppose you have a better explanation for why most of this "new" video shows a still frame while "OBL" keeps rambling on? And why OBL appears to be getting younger with a darker beard? The lame "explanation" that it is common for middle eastern men to color their beards was simply made up out of whole cloth. But don't let that get in the way of believing the fiction that OBL is still alive.
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Post by Jason on Sept 11, 2007 16:41:58 GMT -4
I suppose you have a better explanation for why most of this "new" video shows a still frame while "OBL" keeps rambling on? Possibly technical glitches in recording the video or changing between formats. Possibly Al Qaeda chose to use freeze frames in order to limit the amount of material the CIA or other forensic groups would have to work with. Hair dye. Answer me this - why resort to silly video fakery when you could hire your own OBL look-alike (especially in that heavy beard) and simply have him say whatever you wanted him to?
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Post by 911: Inside Job on Sept 11, 2007 20:48:19 GMT -4
Possibly technical glitches in recording the video or changing between formats. Possibly Al Qaeda chose to use freeze frames in order to limit the amount of material the CIA or other forensic groups would have to work with. Since those "glitches" exactly coincide with the only parts of the speech that cover current events, I'd say no. They recycled an older OBL video and dubbed the new parts over it. Their previously faked videos backfired when it was obviously not OBL, but an impostor. So they tried recycling an older OBL video made before his beard was gray and looped in audio about current events. The speaker probably lip-synced the "live" parts. It should be obvious to all but the most credulous that if OBL were actually alive and well, such video tricks would not be necessary.
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Post by Jason on Sept 11, 2007 21:23:59 GMT -4
If you already have a voice imitator who can do a credible imitation of OBL why can't you also find a look-alike? Especially behind such a beard?
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Post by PhantomWolf on Sept 12, 2007 0:24:49 GMT -4
Actually Muslims are not allowed to dye their beards, except under two circumstances. One is the courting of a woman (and I think we can likely rule that one out) and the other is the permission for a Holy Warrior to dye his beard black as a way of intimidating his enemies. Could be a possible you know.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Sept 12, 2007 0:27:05 GMT -4
an older OBL video made before his beard was gray
I totally disagree here. His beard is quite obviously dyed, the colour is not natural. Regardless of when it was taken, it wasn't when his bread was black.
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Post by turbonium on Sept 12, 2007 2:56:36 GMT -4
Answer me this - why resort to silly video fakery when you could hire your own OBL look-alike (especially in that heavy beard) and simply have him say whatever you wanted him to? Why bother hiring an OBL look-alike when you can simply resort to silly video fakery? I like it when a question can be answered with a question...
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Post by turbonium on Sept 12, 2007 3:02:52 GMT -4
But if they ever do decide to hire someone for an "OBL" video, I hope they get one of those guys from ZZ Top!
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Post by Grand Lunar on Sept 12, 2007 7:27:42 GMT -4
The opening statement is one seen too often with moon hoax believers. And just as credible. What's simpler; technical issues with the video and OBL with a dyed beard? Or a faked video, which is made to be part of an elaborate hoax that was put together in record time (i.e, soon as Bush was put in office)?
We're not laughing with you, 9/11 CTers. We laugh AT you.
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Post by Grand Lunar on Sept 12, 2007 7:28:40 GMT -4
Sorry GL, but I'm unimpressed. It doesn't take paranormal abilities to forecast the reactions of the hoax believer crowd. True, true. A platypus could predict their mentality.
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