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Post by JayUtah on Mar 26, 2008 18:18:19 GMT -4
Dunno about the rest of you, but I have a very hard time seeing the ground directly underneath my aircraft.
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Post by Jason on Mar 26, 2008 18:33:58 GMT -4
What? No glass-bottomed airplanes?
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Post by trevor on Mar 27, 2008 5:19:00 GMT -4
Aw, come on, some Hercs have got little windows by the flight crew's feet. ;D
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Post by lenbrazil on Mar 27, 2008 9:28:39 GMT -4
I assumed they were between Andrews and the Mall, perhaps over the Potomac, at the time heading northwest. This would fit with O’Brian the pilot saying he saw 77 at “10 o’clock”.
One more doubt. The plane took off at 9:30, 4 - 5 minutes after all take offs had been banned, didn’t that apply to military flights? The order given shortly after for all flights to land ASAP applied to military flights, and the C-130 flight was routine, it was returning to base. I guess it probably took a few minutes to inform all airports, especially AFB’s, of the ban.
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Post by scooter on Mar 27, 2008 9:50:37 GMT -4
There was a ground stop order given. This order will take some time to filter throughout the air traffic control system. It's not as if the FAA administrator can pick up a microphone and immediately inform every ATC entity to shut down. It takes some minutes to get passed along.
And true, the military was exempt.
Between the lack of air traffic and the folks staying home, I sure remember how quiet it was that day, eerily quiet.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Mar 27, 2008 15:54:39 GMT -4
The Ground stop didn't apply to Military flights anyways, otherwise NEADS wouldn't have been able to get it's tankers, AWACS, and fighters into the air.
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Post by lenbrazil on Mar 27, 2008 18:56:13 GMT -4
I thought the exemption was for flights need for air defense and other emergencies. I imagine if the empty c-130 returning to its based had been schedualed to take off a few minutes later it would have stayed at Andrews for a few days.
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Post by gillianren on Mar 27, 2008 20:54:07 GMT -4
I remember planes flying overhead that night. Actually, though, it was already quiet where I lived, because I lived across the street from the dorms, and the dorms weren't scheduled to open until that Saturday. There's about a month at the end of summer when that whole campus is eerily quiet. But, yes, it was worse that day; not even the residents of the apartment complex I lived in were moving around.
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