Jason
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Post by Jason on Oct 22, 2008 16:37:07 GMT -4
I wonder how McCain will win...will the Republicans just steal the election or will Obama be disgraced? So it's completely out of the question that people might just vote for McCain because they think he will do a better job than Obama?
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Post by Ginnie on Oct 22, 2008 17:10:37 GMT -4
according to the guy on the radioliberty interview, who got it from the illuminati man.Yawn. DH you are so gullible. We'll see. At the time the man was interviewed, oil was still over $100/barrel. Today it's $67/barrel. $17 and 13 days to go before we know how good the source is. I wonder how McCain will win...will the Republicans just steal the election or will Obama be disgraced? Gee. DH, I thought you were kidding in your post. Shows how much I know. Hope you're feeling better, DH.
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Post by Apollo Gnomon on Oct 22, 2008 18:48:17 GMT -4
DH is never kidding with things like this. She's very serious about them.
So, DH, what happens if Obama wins? Will the illuminati have him offed? And what happens if McCain wins and then chokes on a pretzel some night watching tv? Is Palin a reliable tool, a usable front-goof like Bush, or a liability?
I don't think McCain needs to win for a plan like this to be set in motion. The secret masters of the Bush administration left such a mess of things, whoever comes next is bound to goof things up worse trying to fix it.
Did you notice that the Republicans running in the primaries were all party "outsiders," minor players and goofballs? The GOP are throwing Mccain under the bus. Why does he make such a big deal about being a "maverick?" Because he doesn't have central party support. He had to go all the way to Alaska to find a Republican gullible and avaricious enough to run with him, and she's also a "maverick."
My prediction: Dems, one term, things are worse in 4 years, then the Republicans come in and get 2 terms +1, like Reagan/Bush after Carter.
One currency? Not for at least 12 more years.
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Post by echnaton on Oct 22, 2008 19:26:37 GMT -4
My prediction: Dems, one term, things are worse in 4 years, then the Republicans come in and get 2 terms +1, like Reagan/Bush after Carter.
Only if they can nominate a decent candidate. That seems very unlikely to occur until there is some drift in the party back toward rationality.
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Post by Dead Hoosiers on Oct 22, 2008 20:00:02 GMT -4
So, DH, what happens if Obama wins? Will the illuminati have him offed? And what happens if McCain wins and then chokes on a pretzel some night watching tv? Is Palin a reliable tool, a usable front-goof like Bush, or a liability? ... One currency? Not for at least 12 more years. It doesn't really matter who wins unless we can put a third party candidate (we won't) into office. Regardless of whether it's Obama or McCain, we're going to get an illuminati controlled globalist for president. George Wallace, despite his sins, correctly observed "There's not a dime's worth of difference between the Democrats and the Republicans." Neither candidate is fit to hold the office of president. I'm not certain yet about Palin. We live in interesting times. My only prediction is that it'll go by the Book. Do you want to elaborate on your 12 year prediction?
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Post by Dead Hoosiers on Oct 22, 2008 20:14:55 GMT -4
I wonder how McCain will win...will the Republicans just steal the election or will Obama be disgraced? So it's completely out of the question that people might just vote for McCain because they think he will do a better job than Obama? Of course not. On the surface, McCain seems to be the better choice, but he's going to war us into a third world economy and continue the U.S.'s role of global enforcer (of NWO policy). He's already told us that. I don't know what barrel the Dems scraped Obama off the bottom of, but I hope he gets deported before the election. He's really scary.
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Post by laurel on Oct 22, 2008 21:53:52 GMT -4
He's an American citizen, what grounds would they have to deport him?
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Post by LunarOrbit on Oct 22, 2008 22:57:11 GMT -4
I don't know what barrel the Dems scraped Obama off the bottom of, but I hope he gets deported before the election. Huh? How can you deport an American born citizen? And why should you? Because he has brown skin? Absolutely disgusting. He was born in the United States, so where are you planning on deporting him to? Hawaii? What scares me are so called Christians who hold racist, bigoted, hateful beliefs. Is this you, DH, talking to John McCain?
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Post by Ginnie on Oct 22, 2008 23:36:04 GMT -4
I predict that smart Democrats will vote better than dumb Republicans in the coming election.
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Post by Dead Hoosiers on Oct 23, 2008 1:33:21 GMT -4
I don't know what barrel the Dems scraped Obama off the bottom of, but I hope he gets deported before the election. Huh? How can you deport an American born citizen? And why should you? Because he has brown skin? Absolutely disgusting. He was born in the United States, so where are you planning on deporting him to? Hawaii? What scares me are so called Christians who hold racist, bigoted, hateful beliefs. Is this you, DH, talking to John McCain? That's classic LO. Don't ask me what I mean, just put words in my mouth, demolish your own argument, and add insult to injury. To answer you and laurel, the jury's still out on whether or not Obama is an American citizen. The birth certificate posted on his website is a fake. Thanks to citizens of the State of Hawaii who sent in their own birth certificates for comparison, the differences are easily seen. He's been sued by Philip Berg who is seeking a federal court order to make him produce the original (which Obama admitted he has in his possession in one of this books). Obama filed a motion for a protective order. If he's a citizen, he ought to just produce it or post his certificate of live birth on his website. His own grandmother and siblings report that he was born in Kenya. There are plenty of websites out there you can check for the details. Anybody who's interested can find the opposing viewpoint. Obama has lied about so many things (never having been a Muslim, never having heard in 20 years his Farrakhan- following white hating pastor deliver an anti-American, anti-white sermon, saying that he hardly knows Ayers, his shady connections with Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, ACORN, the fact that half his staff is Nation of Islam (at least as of a couple of months ago), his close ties (daily conversations) with Odinga and interference in Kenyan politics, the fact that he holds, at best, dual citizenship in Indonesia (and possibly his only citizenship), the fact that he's absolutely without any experience whatsoever that would qualify him to run this country, his egomanical posturing in front of those Greek pillars and taking the American flag off his stupid airplane and painting a big "O" on it, all make me suspicious of the guy. Oh, and he's also a blatant socialist. We don't deport people based on their skin color but on their citizenship. Now who's the hateful bigot LO? And no, that's not me in the video. Maybe it's your mother?
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Post by gillianren on Oct 23, 2008 1:53:27 GMT -4
I don't even know where to begin. Suffice it to say that you're buying into stupid conspiracy theories. Besides, would you post your birth certificate online? Of course not! That would be a really stupid thing to do in a world of identity theft, wouldn't it?
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Post by Dead Hoosiers on Oct 23, 2008 2:36:08 GMT -4
I don't even know where to begin. Suffice it to say that you're buying into stupid conspiracy theories. Besides, would you post your birth certificate online? Of course not! That would be a really stupid thing to do in a world of identity theft, wouldn't it? What conspiracy theories? Maybe you can explain why O's purported birth certificate is posted here? fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate. A valid certificate can only be obtained by a family member. So who provided this birth certificate to Fight the Smears? Looks like Obama was stupid enough to do it. I'd be satisfied if he produced his original bc to the judge in Pennsylvania. He doesn't have to show it to the world.
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Post by tedward on Oct 23, 2008 4:15:44 GMT -4
Don't you just love politics. Good joke, How do you know when a politician is lying? Their lips move. Sort of an interest in the US election because it will affect me but the above sounds more like a character smear? As I understand it to run for US president, on paper, all you need is to be born in the US and be over 21? Then reality steps in. And the money. And any impropriety would surly have been outed before now? If you are going to pin your whole election run on a person then you would make sure all that money invested will not be wasted for a simple slip up. Human foibles aside there would be some things you make sure of. At least in theory.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Oct 23, 2008 5:52:28 GMT -4
Ummm, DH, you do realise that even if he was born in Kenya, his Mother was a US citizen and thus he is a US Citizen and eligable to be president?
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Post by logger on Oct 23, 2008 10:22:37 GMT -4
Ummm, DH, you do realise that even if he was born in Kenya, his Mother was a US citizen and thus he is a US Citizen and eligable to be president? There are restrictions on passage of US citizenship to the next generation this way. It is my understanding his mother does not satisfy those restrictions. But none of this matters, since he was born in Hawaii. At least one online diatribe I have found on this argues that he can't be a US citizen because his mother didn't live in the US for five years after the age of 16 but before his birth, and then freely acknowledge that he was born in Hawaii, making his mother's length of residency completely irrelevant. I knew people were arguing McCain was ineligible for being born in Central America, but I didn't know equally disingenuous arguments were circling about Obama.
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