MarkS
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Why is it so?
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Post by MarkS on May 13, 2008 6:55:33 GMT -4
If you think the moon landing was fake, you HATE AMERICA! North or South?
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Post by Grand Lunar on May 13, 2008 7:13:10 GMT -4
It seems to me that HBs often start their arguments with anti-American statements. "The US government has lied about things, so they must have been lying about the moon landings." Only they usually use harsher language. In that situation, I don't blame people for assuming that the HBs have anti-American and/or anti-government feelings. I've seen this thinking used by Straydog. Isn't there a technical term for this?
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Post by Grand Lunar on May 13, 2008 7:17:09 GMT -4
I'm quite flattered to see the flip side of my thread here. Often, when I make a claim that's found funny, I either made an error, or the HB doesn't understand what I wrote. It is sometimes difficult to avoid insults. Best I can do is take a deep breath, and remember something: "I'm not the silly one." I once heard someone say that IQ was like the graduations on a measuring jug: it tells you the volume but says nothing about the content.... This makes me feel better, though I haven't taken an offical test. Just one online. Gotta remember this for when I'm questioned about what my IQ is. A guy at school really needs this retort.
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Post by Jason Thompson on May 13, 2008 9:22:11 GMT -4
Lest we forget, Ralph Rene was a member of Mensa, so presumably has a high IQ, but he still thinks crawling around under his table with a cardboard box on his back is a good way to prove that the astronauts couldn't get through the door of the LM, an activity that is recorded numerous times in the Apollo visual record....
I have no idea what my IQ is, nor do I care. My intelligence and abilities are reflected in the qualifications I have gained, the way I do my job, and the way I formulate arguments and debate on forums such as these, not by some number on a piece of paper that someone somewhere has decided represents my intelligence in numerical form.
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Post by JayUtah on May 13, 2008 9:38:15 GMT -4
I was also a member of Mensa until I realized that was not the company I wanted to keep, mostly for the same reasons of basic competence that makes us wonder about Rene. The Mensans I know were people who could talk for hours on hyperspatial manifolds and then they'd turn around and pour oil in their car's radiator. A whole lotta brains, but not much smarts.
I wouldn't trust the online IQ tests simply because they ask so few questions. That leads to a lot of variance in the results. You might score artificially very high or very low.
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Post by Ranb on May 13, 2008 10:08:57 GMT -4
I read the biography of USAF Col John Boyd a while go. He was the man who managed to turn the art of aerial dog fighting into a science. He once said his IQ was measured at 90. When he was offered the chance to take the test again, he declined. He claimed that he would use it to his advantage by letting people find out his IQ was 90, let them underestimate him, then steam roll them with his ideas and lectures on dog fighting. Smart man.
Ranb
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Bob B.
Bob the Excel Guru?
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Post by Bob B. on May 13, 2008 10:20:15 GMT -4
I know my IQ but it is something that I prefer to keep to myself. It’s nobody’s business what my IQ is just like it’s nobody’s business how much money I make. Although I’m an intelligent individual, I’d rather be judged on performance. Having a high IQ means little if it doesn’t translate into performance. I’m more impressed by a person who maximizes his/her limited potential than I am by a high-IQ underachiever.
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Jason
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Post by Jason on May 13, 2008 11:02:45 GMT -4
Measuring a person's intelligence is an inexact science at best. I've never bothered to take an IQ test. I already know I'm fairly bright in some areas and all thumbs in others, and that's good enough for me.
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Post by LunarOrbit on May 13, 2008 11:34:57 GMT -4
The thing that concerns me about the online IQ tests is that they often want to sell you a "detailed report" after you take the test. So I wonder if they are giving people high scores just so that they will buy the report.
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Bob B.
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Post by Bob B. on May 13, 2008 13:50:53 GMT -4
The only real IQ test I've ever taken was when I was about 10 years old. I've also done a couple of online tests just out of curiosity. One of the online tests returned a score just a couple points off from my childhood score. The other scored me about 30 points higher!
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Post by LunarOrbit on May 13, 2008 14:08:55 GMT -4
I did an IQ test that was part of a live nationwide television program on the CBC. I got an above average score, but I'm not sure if it was an accurate test. Another test I did online gave me a much higher score, but they were the ones trying to sell me something.
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Post by JayUtah on May 13, 2008 14:20:09 GMT -4
Flattery may indeed be involved as a marketing tool, but one need not invoke that suspicion to invalidate the results strictly on methodological grounds. As many have reported, practical intelligence is a matter of many things that can't be boiled down to a single number.
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Post by gwiz on May 13, 2008 14:42:12 GMT -4
I sat an IQ test when I went to college. Someone had got permission to test the entire entry as part of some research into how IQ correlated with academic results. Here comes the anticlimax: unfortunately, I never found out either how I scored or whether the results of the research were ever published.
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Post by Ginnie on May 13, 2008 21:15:56 GMT -4
This thread has been hijacked!
BTW I am afraid to take an IQ test. Just don't want to know. My son took an online test when he was 14 and was scored at 163. Is it genetic? ;D
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Jason
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Post by Jason on May 13, 2008 22:51:42 GMT -4
You're afraid to take one? If you did take a test and it said you were well below average, would you believe it? Would it ruin your whole life to know some stupid test thinks you're below average?
(And before anyone asks, I've always done rather well on tests)
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