Al Johnston
"Cheer up!" they said, "It could be worse!" So I did, and it was.
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Post by Al Johnston on Aug 8, 2008 17:47:35 GMT -4
IIRC, H2O is the low energy side of the equation: separating it to H2 and O2 requires a net energy input, in addition to the activation energy required to get the reaction started, so the "membrane", whatever it is, must be doing work somehow...
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Post by captain swoop on Aug 9, 2008 11:24:41 GMT -4
Unless the 'membrane' or some other part of the mechanism is consumed in the process.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Aug 9, 2008 15:13:12 GMT -4
I'm wondering if it has some sort of capablity where it attracts and then breaks off the H by absorbing it and then pushing it through the membrane without allowing the O to pass through thus separating them, but yeah it does sort of boggle the mind about how it works and what could be possible with it.
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Post by Apollo Gnomon on Aug 14, 2008 18:50:44 GMT -4
Exactly! In fact, you get exactly the number of electrons out as you get in, minus losses for resistance. I've seen a couple of variations on this: 1) Brown's Gas (electrolysis) where water is broken by alternator current and fed into the intake manifold (fuel/air mixture) with no regulation. 2) Some kind of "Magic Gizmo" that breaks the water into energy: The basic power generation mechanism of the new system is similar to that of a normal fuel cell, which uses hydrogen as a fuel. According to Genepax, the main feature of the new system is that it uses the company's membrane electrode assembly (MEA), which contains a material capable of breaking down water into hydrogen and oxygen through a chemical reaction. techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20080613/153276/This technology involves an energy input "upstream" of the consumer, creating the membrane, which is consumable. 3) Fuel Cells, which convert Hydrogen into electricity. Hydrogen must be supplied by an outside source, including but not limited to Electrolysis systems.
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