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Post by Space Rat on Jun 16, 2009 1:15:33 GMT -4
? There are something like 200 million cases a year. In areas with adequate sanitation? If malaria thrives in areas with inadequate sanitation, then sanitation has not wiped out malaria. Might as well say that cleaning has wiped out dirt, because only places that aren't clean have dirt.
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Post by laurel on Jun 16, 2009 1:44:09 GMT -4
Just out of curiosity, how much of a role does adequate sanitation play in preventing malaria? I know about some measures for preventing it, like protecting people from insect bites (with insecticide-treated bed nets for example) and the use of anti-malarial drugs (some of which can have scary side effects, but that's another issue), but I don't know what else is done to prevent it.
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Post by Halcyon Dayz, FCD on Jun 16, 2009 8:19:11 GMT -4
Mosquitoes breed in pools. So filling up pools reduces their numbers.
I understand that in the US South East piling up used tyres in the open air has been banned. After rain each tyre would have a little pool inside off it.
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Post by Space Rat on Jun 16, 2009 9:29:46 GMT -4
Just out of curiosity, how much of a role does adequate sanitation play in preventing malaria? I know about some measures for preventing it, like protecting people from insect bites (with insecticide-treated bed nets for example) and the use of anti-malarial drugs (some of which can have scary side effects, but that's another issue), but I don't know what else is done to prevent it. Drainage of swamps has been used to control malaria, although that seems like a rather broad definition of sanitation.
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Post by echnaton on Jun 16, 2009 9:55:46 GMT -4
DDT is a cheap and highly effective pesticide and the surest way to control mosquitoes. Because of its slow degradation, spraying in a dwelling will repel them for weeks. But the property of persistence allows it to be concentrated to toxic levels in animals that eat incests so it is banned in much of the world.
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Post by gillianren on Jun 16, 2009 13:33:47 GMT -4
? There are something like 200 million cases a year. I know. However, when I asked about the belief that vaccines are spreading disease, not preventing it--it may have been in a different thread, but I don't think so--because, you know, smallpox, I was pointed to an article that claimed it had been sanitation and improved nutrition. It pointed out another list of diseases that had been "wiped out" the same way. Malaria was, indeed, one of them. Now, I freely admit that the chances of getting many diseases are greatly reduced by proper sanitation. I also, however, found that cases of measles--which is, I believe, not one of them--have been dropping drastically now that the WHO is on a massive vaccination campaign.
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Post by Space Rat on Jun 16, 2009 14:29:16 GMT -4
? There are something like 200 million cases a year. I know. However, when I asked about the belief that vaccines are spreading disease, not preventing it--it may have been in a different thread, but I don't think so--because, you know, smallpox, I was pointed to an article that claimed it had been sanitation and improved nutrition. It pointed out another list of diseases that had been "wiped out" the same way. Malaria was, indeed, one of them. Now, I freely admit that the chances of getting many diseases are greatly reduced by proper sanitation. I also, however, found that cases of measles--which is, I believe, not one of them--have been dropping drastically now that the WHO is on a massive vaccination campaign. Ah I get it. I should picked up on the satirical tone of the immediately surrounding posts
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Post by Ginnie on Jun 16, 2009 17:03:16 GMT -4
Mosquitoes breed in pools. So filling up pools reduces their numbers. I understand that in the US South East piling up used tyres in the open air has been banned. After rain each tyre would have a little pool inside off it. In my area a few years ago everyone was worried about West Nile virus, so pools of water where mosquitoes could breed was a big no-no. My neighbour was so paranoid he was almost afraid of going outside. I would check around the house and backyard to make sure it was "safe". I think most folks here have forgotten about all that now.
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Post by Jason on Jun 23, 2009 10:50:14 GMT -4
I think I may actually have had the swine flu over this last weekend. If that's what it was, then I'm unimpressed. All it did was make me feel a little achy and tired for about 4 days. No FEMA forced vaccination or black helicopters or guy with a spacesuit crawling through my blinds or anything.
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Post by LunarOrbit on Jun 23, 2009 10:58:27 GMT -4
No FEMA forced vaccination or black helicopters or guy with a spacesuit crawling through my blinds or anything. They only do that when they discover your 10 year old son is hiding an extra-terrestrial in his bedroom.
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Post by Jason on Jun 23, 2009 12:04:18 GMT -4
No FEMA forced vaccination or black helicopters or guy with a spacesuit crawling through my blinds or anything. They only do that when they discover your 10 year old son is hiding an extra-terrestrial in his bedroom. Point!
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Post by archer17 on Jun 26, 2009 17:11:09 GMT -4
I think I may actually have had the swine flu over this last weekend. If that's what it was, then I'm unimpressed. All it did was make me feel a little achy and tired for about 4 days. No FEMA forced vaccination or black helicopters or guy with a spacesuit crawling through my blinds or anything. Deep beneath Mt. Weather a phone rings...
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Post by PeterB on Jun 27, 2009 9:12:23 GMT -4
I think I may actually have had the swine flu over this last weekend. If that's what it was, then I'm unimpressed. All it did was make me feel a little achy and tired for about 4 days. No FEMA forced vaccination or black helicopters or guy with a spacesuit crawling through my blinds or anything. Why do you think you might have had swine flu? My wife and I were tested for it a couple of weeks ago after we got some severe bug or other, this occurring shortly after my wife and son had to pass through Sydney Airport. The result was negative, but I've still got the bug, more than a fortnight later. Based on how others have described the flu (flu generally, not swine flu specifically) I've never had it, but I get a lot of colds. But if this isn't the flu, I get the impression that having the flu is something quite devastating.
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Post by Jason on Jun 27, 2009 10:09:04 GMT -4
That's just it - the flu can be just achiness and fatigue if it's a light case, and the Swine flu isn't particularly disabling, it is just very contagious.
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Post by pzkpfw on Jun 28, 2009 22:35:51 GMT -4
My Sister-in-law has been diagnosed as having it by the Family Doctor. So has her Daughter (who goes to school in the same car as my Son).
A friend of my daughter has also been diagnosed positively.
My own Family (Me, Wife and 2 kids) have all had a mild-to-bad "cold" or something for a few weeks now (4 to 5 weeks for my Wife, sickness comes and goes). We've all had time off school or work.
It's hard not to think (or imagine) we could have "it" - but folk keep telling me we don't.
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