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Post by toseek on Oct 20, 2009 16:25:00 GMT -4
That's always been one of my issues: they can build and launch a six-million-pound rocket, they can keep a secret for forty years, but they can't fake a blast crater? CUT! We need stars in this scene, moron! STARS! And what's that freakin' rock doin' with a freakin' letter C on it? Oh, for cryin' out loud, we used exactly the same backdrop in the last scene! Oh, and would someone please tell me where the goldarned reseau marks are in this rushes? Put some in, right now, pronto, immediatement! What's with the incriminating message some clown wrote on just the white stripes on the U.S. flag? Blank it out! No, don't worry about the gaps in the reseau marks. Nobody will ever notice. OK, OK, OK, enough with the freakin' hurricane in here! The freakin' flag's flappin' around like crazy! Last time I heard, this was meant to be a closed set: so close the Goddamned door, Einstein! Listen up, crew: we have millions of dollars to fake this thing, and nobody - but nobody - must ever suspect the truth! What's that, TJ? Film Buzz walking on the moon in the Vomit Comet? Do you have the slightest idea what that could cost? No, just film him on the set and slow it down a bit. As an Illuminati Regional Vice-Deputy Assistant Co-Ordinator, I want the director of the Apollo footage shot - RIGHT NOW! How We Faked The Moon Landings
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Post by vq on Oct 20, 2009 21:31:32 GMT -4
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Post by Apollo Gnomon on Oct 21, 2009 1:42:50 GMT -4
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Post by rob260259 on Oct 21, 2009 15:49:17 GMT -4
Great!
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Post by jagster on Oct 22, 2009 22:49:29 GMT -4
The first honest to goodness spaceship...minus Hollywood's nuclear plasma, warp drive propulsion...just plain old chemical engines, and all the limitations thereof reflected in the design. An engineering masterpiece. Funky! As one of my favorite ads from that time read: "It's ugly, but it gets you there." Referring to the VW Beetle and also showing a picture of that same spindly legged LM!
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Post by AtomicDog on Oct 22, 2009 23:32:48 GMT -4
The first honest to goodness spaceship...minus Hollywood's nuclear plasma, warp drive propulsion...just plain old chemical engines, and all the limitations thereof reflected in the design. An engineering masterpiece. Funky! As one of my favorite ads from that time read: "It's ugly, but it gets you there." Referring to the VW Beetle and also showing a picture of that same spindly legged LM! I love that ad! www.greatvwads.com/pix/ad24.htm
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Post by Data Cable on Oct 23, 2009 4:53:10 GMT -4
"It's ugly, but it gets you there." Jim: "She's a beautiful machine, Tom!" Rusty: "You really think it's beautiful?" Jim: "God no, it looks like a toaster oven with legs, but I'm not gonna tell him that." -- From the Earth to the Moon, episode 5, "Spider" ;D
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Post by gonetoplaid on Oct 23, 2009 22:49:46 GMT -4
Something similar can be said for the "clean" LM footpads. In images of EVA training, the set crew put rocks & dust in the footpads ( photo). In vacuum, material did not billow, so the pads generally stayed clean on landing. Even more can be said for the fact that for every LM the footpad photos show trace amounts of dust which collected here and there in crevasses of the metallized Mylar foil covering the top half of the footpads closest to the descent engine.
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Post by inconceivable on Oct 28, 2009 10:58:12 GMT -4
Though, being close to the terminator and being that the dark half of the moon is primarily negatively charged, the positively charged space craft would have been engulfed with dust as the surface dust is negatively charged. In this vaccuum/electrostatically charged lunar environment, the negatively charged dust particles kicked up by the LEM engine would then accelerate toward the spacecraft, caking it with dust. The only way around this would be to land on the shaded side of the moon landing from the dark side as the spacecraft would then be negatively charged.
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Post by Bob B. on Oct 28, 2009 11:27:13 GMT -4
In this vaccuum/electrostatically charged lunar environment, the negatively charged dust particles kicked up by the LEM engine would then accelerate toward the spacecraft, caking it with dust. Wrong. The dust is not "kicked up", it is propelled outward. Remember, the moon has no atmosphere, so there won't be any dust clouds billowing about like on Earth. Any dust that is displaced will flow along with the exhaust stream, which is in a direction radially outward and low to the ground. The momentum imparted to the dust particles by the exhaust far exceeds any weak electrostatic attraction, therefore the exhaust flow dominates.
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Post by JayUtah on Oct 28, 2009 13:39:16 GMT -4
...the negatively charged dust particles kicked up by the LEM engine would then accelerate toward the spacecraft... No. The dust particles are not aerosolized as you suggest. There is no medium in which to aerosolize. They are instead entrained in an extremely high-velocity exhaust plume moving outward. Compared to that, electrostatic attraction is negligible.
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