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Post by echnaton on Dec 23, 2010 10:16:50 GMT -4
And exactly how did you determine that a ladle pressed into her palm was not in contact with her skin? By watching a Youtube video? Is there any place in the video where we can clearly see the gap between the handle and her hand? Though entirely unconvincing, your continued appeal to authority is the strongest claim you have. But why do you believe that some guy somewhere that may be working for some university is sufficient authority to justify a belief in an otherwise unexplained phenomenon? Don't you really want to know the truth?
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Post by lionking on Dec 23, 2010 13:01:28 GMT -4
seeing is believing. I could see that it is not in touch with the skin. I could see also another video where heavy things were carried on the skin of the man. Other scientists say it as to do with a property in the skin, but the fact that it is unusual is there.
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Post by echnaton on Dec 23, 2010 13:27:49 GMT -4
So you have no substantial answer to my critique other than to reiterate your willingness to accept almost any nonsense that appears on the internet?
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Post by echnaton on Dec 23, 2010 13:31:11 GMT -4
Other scientists say it as to do with a property in the skin.... That is what I said except I attributed a specific property to the skin. The property is that it is oily.
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Post by lionking on Dec 23, 2010 14:50:08 GMT -4
So you have no substantial answer to my critique other than to reiterate your willingness to accept almost any nonsense that appears on the internet? indeed I fail to answer someone who cn't see something that is so obvious. you might want to check your eyes if you can't see that there is a distance between the spoon and the girl, or that it is so normal for such heavy objects to hang on the man on the second video.
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Post by gillianren on Dec 23, 2010 14:50:27 GMT -4
So you have no substantial answer to my critique other than to reiterate your willingness to accept almost any nonsense that appears on the internet? As I said. The thing is, "seeing is believing" doesn't work when what you see is a video. You are only seeing what they want you to see. Which is one reason I didn't bother with the video. Of course they won't show you the bits which don't show what they want you to see. Of course they don't show you the bits which invalidate their points or show that they're con artists. Of course not. And ye Gods, what I wouldn't give for a proper ignore function around here.
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Post by echnaton on Dec 23, 2010 15:22:29 GMT -4
So you have no substantial answer to my critique other than to reiterate your willingness to accept almost any nonsense that appears on the internet? indeed I fail to answer someone who cn't see something that is so obvious. you might want to check your eyes if you can't see that there is a distance between the spoon and the girl, or that it is so normal for such heavy objects to hang on the man on the second video. In my experience things that are obvious in images are easy to point to. Give me the time index of the video where you can see a gap between the hand and handle. I haven't watched the second video and before I do, I'd like to know why you attribute the stickiness of the skin in both to the same force? You haven't provided a plausible explanation for the first one yet so how can you say the second is the same thing? How do you differ between these people and others who claim to have bodies with electromagnetic properties (as was hinted to in you thread title) that result in the exact same phenomenon? No more deflections to Youtube, just give me an answer.
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Post by lionking on Dec 23, 2010 16:16:59 GMT -4
It starts at 2:35 minutes and is best seen at minutes 2:53
I am not saying that it is for sure oily skin in the second video. I am not giving an explanation, just saying what the scientists say. If I could explain it I wouldn't have posted the thread. It might be like the scientists say in the second video that it is oily skin, but the first one doesn't seem so.
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Post by LunarOrbit on Dec 23, 2010 17:11:42 GMT -4
No, if that were true I would have to believe that David Copperfield really made the Statue of Liberty disappear, or that Superman really can fly. You should really learn to think more critically about things like this, Lionking. Not everyone who puts a video on YouTube is being truthful. Con artists love people like you who are so willing to believe unbelievable things, and if you're not careful you could be hurt.
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Post by echnaton on Dec 23, 2010 21:26:59 GMT -4
It starts at 2:35 minutes and is best seen at minutes 2:53 I am not saying that it is for sure oily skin in the second video. I am not giving an explanation, just saying what the scientists say. If I could explain it I wouldn't have posted the thread. It might be like the scientists say in the second video that it is oily skin, but the first one doesn't seem so. hand by b2220128, on Flickr At 2:53 the handle is clearly touching her hand. Look at the bottom of her palm, by her little finger. Can you really insist that the handle is not touching her hand. This poor child is being used by those around her.
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Post by echnaton on Dec 24, 2010 10:03:44 GMT -4
I finally watched the second video and one thing stood out about all the "magnetic" people. They have no hair on the skin where the objects are sticking. allowing tight contact. A fact that is consistent with the oily skin hypothesis.
Typed with a quarter stuck to my forehead.
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Post by lionking on Jan 4, 2011 4:42:01 GMT -4
It starts at 2:35 minutes and is best seen at minutes 2:53 I am not saying that it is for sure oily skin in the second video. I am not giving an explanation, just saying what the scientists say. If I could explain it I wouldn't have posted the thread. It might be like the scientists say in the second video that it is oily skin, but the first one doesn't seem so. hand by b2220128, on Flickr At 2:53 the handle is clearly touching her hand. Look at the bottom of her palm, by her little finger. Can you really insist that the handle is not touching her hand. This poor child is being used by those around her. you have watched the video where the spoon moves all the time? you are saying that it is clear that it is touching her skin which is not so. rewatch the video and you will see how before the minutes i mentioned also the spoon is moving and is away from the hand. I really can't do anything if you can't see it. the second video shows people with no hair on their skin, but can they hold such heavy and big objects on oily skin? if so, then their skin is unusually oily and this oil is unusually adhesive..I mean big and heavy objects are being put on. We know about many people who eat glass and perform extraordinary things. this might be one of these extraordinary powers that need more studying as is being done by the scientists in both cases of Jelena and the otehr video.
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Post by Ian Pearse on Jan 4, 2011 8:29:55 GMT -4
Sorry, but eating glass is not an extraordinary thing - stupid thing maybe. It doesn't do anything for you and has the potential (albeit slight) to do damage to your insides.
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Post by echnaton on Jan 4, 2011 11:38:22 GMT -4
you have watched the video where the spoon moves all the time? you are saying that it is clear that it is touching her skin which is not so. rewatch the video and you will see how before the minutes i mentioned also the spoon is moving and is away from the hand. I really can't do anything if you can't see it. the second video shows people with no hair on their skin, but can they hold such heavy and big objects on oily skin? if so, then their skin is unusually oily and this oil is unusually adhesive..I mean big and heavy objects are being put on. We know about many people who eat glass and perform extraordinary things. this might be one of these extraordinary powers that need more studying as is being done by the scientists in both cases of Jelena and the otehr video. My question is have you watched it? Look at how the ladle moves, it pivots on an area on her hand where it makes contact. Yet you still insist that it is not in contact with her skin. I simply do not understand why you choose to believe what someone says in a YouTube video. It is remotely possible that there are properties at work here that are not understood, but your credulousness of grasping at the unlikely while dismissing known and testable causes for what you see is just amazing to me. Try and see what will stick to your skin when it is especially oily. Coins will stick to my forehead for as long as I can hold still enough not to move the skin. The other possibility that is not explored is direct fraud. Despite what the video may claim about the absence of double sided tape, there could be one of an array of clear adhesives on the objects. To modify Occam's razor, don't proclaim the extraordinary when the prosaic will do.
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Post by lionking on Jan 4, 2011 12:01:49 GMT -4
Sorry, but eating glass is not an extraordinary thing - stupid thing maybe. It doesn't do anything for you and has the potential (albeit slight) to do damage to your insides. stupid or no, it happens and it is unusual that it doesn't damage.try to undertand the idea that I say
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