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Post by gillianren on Dec 14, 2011 18:05:59 GMT -4
Oh, good point. Yeah, I think Stalin wasn't a bad example of what happens when a conspiracist takes control.
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Post by laurel on Dec 14, 2011 18:23:17 GMT -4
Would Jim Garrison be another relevant example here?
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Post by gillianren on Dec 14, 2011 19:18:57 GMT -4
Oh, yeah. Ironically enough, he was in bed with the organization the Subcommittee blamed for Kennedy's death, at least unofficially. Garrison was all mobbed up. It's also worth noting that, contrary to what Oliver Stone would have you believe, Garrison actually managed to convince jurors that there wasn't a conspiracy!
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Post by gillianren on Dec 14, 2011 23:24:19 GMT -4
Yes, because the two weapons are easily mistaken for one another. That is, according to people who know firearms and don't just try to shoehorn in claims about TV shows and movies. You going to address the fact that it was wrong about Presidential assassinations?
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Post by redneckr0nin on Dec 15, 2011 0:14:58 GMT -4
Jack Rubinstein (not positive about the spelling) AKA Jack Ruby in an interview said that it was a conspiracy at the HIGHEST LEVELS and that the facts would never be known. here is something else thats interesting Jack Ruby was an informant for congress Jack Ruby had worked for Richard Nixon in 1947 and testified on the house un-American activities hearing, in a closed door session. Of course he did....he was a hit of the week but that don't last long. Once in jail for the rest of your life you feel the need to still be something on the outside...like your out in spirit. Documentation or reputable source on him being a informant? So he was in a room with Richard Nixon...that proves nothing
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Post by gillianren on Dec 15, 2011 3:55:40 GMT -4
Yes. Yes, it is. You're reciting garbage you've read on conspiracy theory websites. We're trying to educate you. That assuredly is a waste of time, because you have no interest in education.
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Post by Jason Thompson on Dec 15, 2011 5:42:46 GMT -4
1> attempt on his life, he said a bullet went past his ear as he was stepping off a curb, the person he was with hit the ground. Being shot at may well be an attempt on his life, but what is the evidence it had any connection to his activities rather than being a random attempt by someone with a grudge? Evidence that this was deliberate and not just a clapped out car that was already dangerous? This happens frequently without being a deliberate attempt to murder. If it was determined to be a suicide, why are you classifying it as a murder?
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Post by echnaton on Dec 15, 2011 10:04:43 GMT -4
officer was roger Craig while he was assisting Jim Garrison in his investigation and after 1> attempt on his life, he said a bullet went past his ear as he was stepping off a curb, the person he was with hit the ground. 2> attempt on his life, his car exploded when he tried to start it, he survived with burns. 3> attempt on his life, he rounded a curve on a highway, there was a car parked sideways blocking the road, he ran off the road down a 90 foot embankment, seriously injuring himself 4> murdered, May 15th 1975, rifle wound to his chest, it was determined to be a suicide. Roger also said his friend that found a stray bullet in the grass at Dealey plaza, Buddy Walters was shot and killed. also listed other officers that were involved that day that died unexpectedly. And all this is documented as true according to who? Or is it just more of your ungrounded speculation? Until you provide citations and documentation it is meaningless.
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Post by laurel on Dec 15, 2011 13:32:59 GMT -4
I Am done this is a waste of time So you've changed your mind, eh?
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Post by gillianren on Dec 15, 2011 16:43:05 GMT -4
There is NO commentary added by the man that put this together. Okay, you've just shown how little you know about the making of documentaries. Namely that he doesn't have to in order to make a piece that lies. All it takes is who he quotes and what he leaves out. Like the fact that every piece of evidence you've listed as "proof" of a conspiracy is either irrelevant or false. Seriously. What's more, none of the Kennedy conspiracies I've seen meet the basic burden of proof. A shot from the grassy knoll is in direct contradiction of the forensic evidence. Besides, any shot from there would have gone right past Abraham Zapruder (remember him?), and he believed until the day he died that Oswald did it. Certainly neither he nor his secretary (who was there at the time) ever spoke of a bullet's going past them. Some people said they heard shots fired from there. True. However, if you look at the testimony of people who were there that day, people heard anywhere from one to five shots--and no one, but no one, thinks only a single shot was fired--and heard them as coming from all over the place. Dealey Plaza is acoustically complicated. And if you want to watch a piece of footage? Try watching the footage of just after the assassination, where a clear majority of people are looking in the direction of the Schoolbook Depository. Of course, the fact that a witness actually saw a guy in the window with a gun is worth noting, too.
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Post by chew on Dec 15, 2011 18:06:33 GMT -4
FBI document says Ruby WORKED for Nixon in 1947 jfkmurdersolved.com/nixonruby.htm"This FBI-document of 1947 recommends that "one Jack Rubenstein of Chicago" should not be called to testify for the Committee on Unamerican Activities, for he is working for Congressman Richard M. Nixon. According to the Warren Commission, Ruby had no connections with Oswald, Organized Crime or the Government. No wonder the header reads "This is sensitive". playdor, your gullibility continues to amaze me. ZIP Codes were not invented until 1963! This is just another fake document manufactured by the conspiracy nuts and you fell for it.
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Post by redneckr0nin on Dec 15, 2011 18:38:39 GMT -4
lmfao
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Post by echnaton on Dec 15, 2011 19:19:05 GMT -4
playdor, your gullibility continues to amaze me. ZIP Codes were not invented until 1963! This is just another fake document manufactured by the conspiracy nuts and you fell for it. He has sunken to new depths. Ditto. So playdor, what do you do now after you've had both of your pet "theories" completely destroyed by such a glaring error to interpret documents? I always wonder if documents with such obvious problems are produced for the express purpose of tripping up conspiracy theorists. But the sad truth is that the more likely explanation is that this was made by a cynical conspiracy theorists to help him sell something to the gullible.
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Post by echnaton on Dec 15, 2011 19:34:39 GMT -4
chew You might actually be right...if it were a zip code where is zip code 90686 ? Let me Google that for you, Playdor.Its your theory and your presenting the document, so you tell us. If the letter were authentic, what would it be?
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Post by gillianren on Dec 15, 2011 22:50:58 GMT -4
Playdor, why is it that you're incapable of acknowledging that your sources are wrong? Is it because you might have to admit that Evidence of Reason (for the love of Gods, stop putting it all in caps; proper grammatical usage is either italics or underline) isn't the be-all and end-all of knowledge? Personally, I prefer to go to primary sources whenever possible, not biased documentaries by people with known agendas. But that could be just me.
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