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Post by lukepemberton on Jul 8, 2011 18:32:51 GMT -4
Blackstar, in your life, when you have lied, you have justified it internally for this or that reason. This is my point. Armstrong may have good reason, very good reason. But you have not shown proof for Armstrong to lie. Where is you proof? How did they fake it and why did they have to fake it? Firstly prove that there was a reason to carry out the fraud. You are starting from a position where you believe the fraud occurred, and expect eveyone to work backwards from that starting point. Again: How did they fake it and why did they have to fake it?Please answer this question.
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Post by blackstar on Jul 8, 2011 18:37:22 GMT -4
Blackstar, in your life, when you have lied, you have justified it internally for this or that reason. This is my point. Armstrong may have good reason, very good reason. You have failed to offer any evidence that he lied about Apollo for the very simplest of reasons; that he did indeed walk on the moon, gather rocks, take pictures and have his words received by tracking stations that confirmed he spoke from the surface of the moon. You on the other hand have a track record of deception and evasion documented here and at BAUT, perhaps when you look at Armstrong and all those others involved in Apollo you are imagining them as reflections of yourself.
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Post by lukepemberton on Jul 8, 2011 18:38:44 GMT -4
...perhaps when you look at Armstrong and all those others involved in Apollo you are imagining them as reflections of yourself. Harsh, but fair.
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Post by theteacher on Jul 8, 2011 18:40:04 GMT -4
I think you like controversy, and do so to get a rise out of people. I'm having the same thoughts. Maybe we are at risk of troll feeding at this point.
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Post by lukepemberton on Jul 8, 2011 18:41:37 GMT -4
I'm having the same thoughts. Maybe we are at risk of troll feeding at this point. I agree.
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Post by fattydash on Jul 8, 2011 18:42:26 GMT -4
For Blackstar and Luke,
This thread's theme is not about proof of lying, about the material evidence in the Apollo debate. I respond now to you both for the last time in this regard. I will ignore all comments of such a nature from now on in this thread.
If one wishes to engage me in debate as regards Apollo's material aspect, please do so in the other threads. I welcome the challenge.
For me, this is by far the most interesting thread to participate in. I will do my best to stay on topic and ask you to do the same.
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Post by blackstar on Jul 8, 2011 18:47:57 GMT -4
For Blackstar and Luke, This thread's theme is not about proof of lying, about the material evidence in the Apollo debate. I respond now to you both for the last time in this regard. I will ignore all of such comments from now on in this thread. If one wishes to engage me in debate as regards Apollo's material aspect, please do so in the other threads. I welcome the challenge. For me, this is by far the most interesting thread to participate in. I will do my best to stay on topic and ask you to do the same. This thread is entitled 'Can we get along?' My posts have explained the reasons why we can't, if you feel that is off topic complain to the moderator.
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Post by lukepemberton on Jul 8, 2011 18:52:38 GMT -4
For Blackstar and Luke, This thread's theme is not about proof of lying, about the material evidence in the Apollo debate. I respond now to you both for the last time in this regard. I will ignore all comments of such a nature from now on in this thread. If one wishes to engage me in debate as regards Apollo's material aspect, please do so in the other threads. I welcome the challenge. For me, this is by far the most interesting thread to participate in. I will do my best to stay on topic and ask you to do the same. The question I asked was: Again: How did they fake it and why did they have to fake it?I've asked you this question at other threads. If you welcome the challenge, which you have just told me, then go to the other thread and answer the question. Take up the challenge. The reason I ask you the question here, is because you seem to fail to answer it at other threads, preferring instead to embark on a gish gallop. The question is perfectly in context of the thread subject. The fact that I cannot get along with you is because you won't answer a simple question. Instead, you choose to start from the premise that it was a fraud, and singly accuse many people of taking part in that fraud without offering proof. I find that utterly repugnant, and is completely in context of the thread. Point of order. LO is the moderator at this forum, not you. If I am off topic, then it is up to LO to moderate, not you. I believe individuals have been wrapped on the knuckles at BAUT for acting like moderator. If LO barks, I will wag my tail. If LO does not, I will carry on until he barks. Get the idea? If enough members bark, then I will also wag my tail. Get the idea?
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Post by LunarOrbit on Jul 8, 2011 19:34:21 GMT -4
This thread's theme is not about proof of lying, about the material evidence in the Apollo debate. I disagree. The topic is titled "Can We Get Along?", therefore every single response you have gotten has been on topic. If you accuse the people at NASA of lying then we won't get along. There's your answer. I'll make it easy for you. Since you now know we can't get along I don't see the point in continuing the discussion. I'm locking this thread. And I will make one thing clear... I'm the moderator here, not you.
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