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Post by gtvc on Jan 7, 2012 15:36:14 GMT -4
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Post by laurel on Jan 7, 2012 16:01:24 GMT -4
I thought this was an urban legend. In the ALSJ ( www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a12/a12.alsepdep.html), Conrad says he was perfectly capable of controlling his language when necessary. [Bean - "This wasn't what I was used to hearing in training. When things like this happened, Pete usually said things like 'You son of a *****!' or 'G****** Boyd bolts'. And all of a sudden we hear these moderate things. Who's this guy with me in that other suit?"] [Conrad - "He came to me one day before the flight and he said, 'Aren't you worried about swearing during the flight?' And I said, 'No, I've been doing it all my life. I know when to and when not to. It's guys like you who are going to slip.'"] The so-called hypnosis certainly didn't keep Conrad from swearing at other times during Apollo 12. If you read the transcripts of onboard recordings in Apollo 12 Flight Journal ( history.nasa.gov/ap12fj/), the crew is definitely not watching their language.
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Post by ka9q on Jan 8, 2012 18:27:50 GMT -4
There's a reference to Apollo 10 MET 4 days, 4 hours 44 minutes, but at that time they were on the lunar far side, out of contact with earth. The tape recorders did record a lot of blue language on the spacecraft intercom and probably on the CM/LM VHF link, but this appeared only in the confidential transcripts that weren't declassified for some time; they weren't heard by reporters in Houston. Nor can I find any exchanges in the A/G or PAO transcript that say anything like this article claims they did about crater Censorius A.
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Post by Vincent McConnell on Jan 9, 2012 0:05:45 GMT -4
Nor can I find any exchanges in the A/G or PAO transcript that say anything like this article claims they did about crater Censorius A. That's because I don't think Stafford really said that. Eugene Cernan was actually reprimanded for cursing on Apollo 10. The LEM began to spin out of control so that Cernan could see the horizon and then the surface, the horizon and then the surface. After it was straightened out, Cernan exclaimed, to millions of TV viewers, "Son of a bitch!" I remember him talking about this on an interview and I had to research it to find out what he actually said, because during the interview, Cernan said, "I said something along the lines of 'Golly-gee!'"
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Post by ka9q on Jan 9, 2012 12:25:44 GMT -4
Yes, I'm familiar with Cernan's expression at the moment of staging Snoopy, but the article here appears to talk about a completely different incident in which Stafford supposedly expresses his awe in a colorful manner when he sees a particularly impressive lunar crater. I can't find Stafford's given statement anywhere in the transcript.
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Post by Vincent McConnell on Jan 9, 2012 17:59:43 GMT -4
Yes, I'm familiar with Cernan's expression at the moment of staging Snoopy, but the article here appears to talk about a completely different incident in which Stafford supposedly expresses his awe in a colorful manner when he sees a particularly impressive lunar crater. I can't find Stafford's given statement anywhere in the transcript. Yeah, I meant to impress upon readers that I didn't think Stafford ever actually said that at all. It seems like more of an urban legend... Especially the part about Jack Schmitt, Apollo 10 CAPCOM, covering for him. Something about that just seems a little bit fake to me. Not to mention, the expression isn't in the Apollo 10 transcripts.
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Post by ka9q on Jan 10, 2012 3:06:24 GMT -4
Yes, it's the lack of that exchange in the transcripts that's the real problem.
But it is true that some people were very worried about Pete Conrad's ability to control his language. But he ended up not having a problem at all.
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