In this thread I explicitly showed that the landing loads experienced by the LM were well within the design limits.
Also, LM couldn't have braked itself. I've seen this claim a couple of times, based on one of two equally wacky underlying ideas, namely (1) rockets can't fire "backwards" to brake or (2) rockets don't provide thrust in a vacuum because there's nothing to push against. A simple and current counterexample for both is the Space Shuttle, or Russain Soyuz or Chinese Shenzhou vehicles, any of which can be predictably tracked in orbit and require rockets which not only work in a vacuum, but which must also "brake" the vehicle for reentry!
Not mine, Jason's. While querying the "no stars" item might have been on topic, in practice it was the start of the drift first to a discussion of photographic defects and then to which achives of photos were best. Naturally, heads then exploded.
anyone who beleives man went to the moon probably also beleives in Santa,and the easter bunny,they are plain just f-idiots,and will die waiting for another so called landing,i just hope this hoax gets out and all the lies exposed,it would make my day,and the US will look like sh## to the world,,,its all about the US trying to scare the russians on who had longer range missle technology,and thats it,,, so simple,,,come on put some guys on the moon again Im waiting
Ivan, before anyone spends time trying to discuss this, please answer the following:
Are you at all open-minded to the possibility that man has flown to the Moon?
Are you willing to listen to and consider evidence that we have flown to the Moon?
If one of your preconceived notions is called into question, are you willing to consider the possibility that you may be wrong?
If the answers to the above are "no", then we need not waste our time.
If the answers are "yes", then other than a new visit to the Moon, what evidence would you accept that we did, in fact, go?
I'll beleive it when,, under todays most powerful telescope,i can see some astronauts waving back ,or when i see some floating fill up fuel stations,,as for the moon rocks supposedly brought back the same rocks are being found in antartica,,having enough fuel for this mission to have ocurred would be impossible,will i ever beleive it happened ,no no no no,big NO,NO,sorry iam just a bit t smart,sorry about my language in my earlier post,i just can't stand children being told lies and feel bad about former space men,women who have trusted their lives to nasa and lost their lives,,
Post by Retrograde on Dec 28, 2005 22:14:36 GMT -4
sorry iam just a bit t smart
Yes, that is immediately obvious from any one of your posts. I'm sure the people here won't even try to fool someone so cunning as yourself.
feel bad about former space men,women who have trusted their lives to nasa and lost their lives,,
As you refer to women as well as men, I'm guessing you refer to space shuttle accidents as well. If I were you, I'd take this one straight to Kofi Annan, since some of the people killed were not from the US. He can convene a special international tribunal to try the guilty. You can be the star prosecution witness; with your obvious intelligence, I'm sure everyone will be convinced quite easily.
for the moon rocks supposedly brought back the same rocks are being found in antartica...
Unfortunately, the rocks being found in Antarctica aren't quite the same as the Apollo rocks.
Yes, the Antarctica rocks were from the Moon, but their outer surfaces have been melted from passing through the Earth's atmosphere at several kilometres per second.
The Apollo rocks don't look like that. Instead, their outer surfaces are covered with microscopic craters caused by the impact of minuscule interplanetary dust particles. I understand that can be faked now, but it certainly couldn't be faked when then rocks were brought back from the Moon.
And before you say the rocks were brought back by robots, you have to explain how robots drilled 2 metre long core samples, and picked up rocks weighing as much as 10 kilograms and others which were fragile clods of compressed soil.
I'll beleive it when,, under todays most powerful telescope,i can see some astronauts waving back...
As today's most powerful telescope is physically incapable of resolving this degree of detail from a quarter-million miles away, your first standard is unattainable, and I would therefore suggest, invalid.
...or when i see some floating fill up fuel stations...
"Floating" where? In Earth orbit? In lunar orbit? In between? Why are these "stations" necessary in order to prove (to you) that the Apollo project happened as claimed?
...as for the moon rocks supposedly brought back the same rocks are being found in antartica...
What about them? You seemed to drift mid-point.
...having enough fuel for this mission to have ocurred would be impossible...
Have you done the calculations which prove this? Have you seen someone else's calculations? Or do you simply believe this because someone told you so?
will i ever beleive it happened ,no no no no,big NO,NO
Then, as Count Zero has stated, there is no need for further discussion.
...feel bad about former space men,women who have trusted their lives to nasa and lost their lives
And how is this related to the validity of the Apollo project?
"Earth diameter is 7,900 miles, and Moon diameter is 2,160 miles. It takes on average 90 minutes to complete one Earth orbit, so one Moon orbit should take roughly 25 minutes." - Sam "NasaScam" Colby
"you data is still open for interpretation, after all a NASA employee might of wipe a booger or dropped a hair on it" - showtime
listen you will DIE waiting for another lunar landing,moon rocks can be easily fabricated,you beleive, men went 200.000plus miles back and forth in three days in 69while we havn't gone no further than 500m out since then in the shuttles,whydoesn't neil armstrong ever want to be interviewed ever,why wasn't the moon dust aorund the craft stirred up during landing?,,president kennedy promised the nation man will reach the moon before the decade was over,they just had to keep his word one way or another,again only time will reveal the hoax,maybe in a hundred years from now,people will wonder why we havn't gone back,,,,,www.moonmovie.com has a good intro,but again you beleivers are just suckers to your goverment