politik
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on a crusade against ignorance
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Post by politik on Sept 22, 2006 7:36:51 GMT -4
So what is your comment, you pro-apolo, but anti-ETs ? What is the connection here? Why do I have to believe in ETs if I believe in Apollo?
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Post by lionking on Sept 22, 2006 7:47:35 GMT -4
The issue here is that NASA LIED, aaccording to the sources provided. You can believe or disbelieve in ETs, but I was addressing those who don't believe while it appears to be acknowledged by NASA.
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Post by hplasm on Sept 22, 2006 8:24:02 GMT -4
The issue here is that NASA LIED, aaccording to the sources provided. In your humble opinion, of course. In MHO, the sources are about as reliable as a wet cardboard stepladder.
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Post by hplasm on Sept 22, 2006 13:17:17 GMT -4
hplasm That was the best your friends could do. Now you have lost me? You are acquainted with my friends...?
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Post by lionking on Sept 22, 2006 14:02:57 GMT -4
I meant your spiritual friends here who are your brothers in the faith of Apollo
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Post by hplasm on Sept 22, 2006 14:35:04 GMT -4
I meant your spiritual friends here who are your brothers in the faith of Apollo But neither my fellow posters here or my physical friends run a gossip site or steam powered talk radio station, as far as I know.... how queer!
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Post by sts60 on Sept 22, 2006 14:42:02 GMT -4
My reasoning is what LO's presented site said that NASA hid the info until it was recorded, then they said it was a joke while the tone of the astronaut didn't seem to be joking.
First this site claims NASA hid this "info", then said it was a joke. I am virtually certain that NASA did neither, that in fact the promulgators of this alleged exchange in fact simply made the story up.
First they denied it, which was a lie, then they said it was a joke.
The only lie I see is the story about NASA having anything to do with this cheesy story. It's not even a funny joke - anyone at all familiar with the U.S. space program would simply find it stupid, because it lacks the veneer of verisimilitude that makes for a good joke.
See the devaluation of ppl's brains I was speaking about
You claim NASA "devalues people's minds", but every instance of this you have brought up has been debunked. But here you are again with a ridiculous story which you treat as gospel truth in your unswerving desire to paint NASA as a den of habitual liars. The only "devaluation" going on here is what you are doing. You can "devalue" my intelligence - I don't care - but you're also devaluing your own by such irrationality, which is a shame because I think you're an intelligent person.
That was the best your friends could do.
I believe this is what the psychologist call "projection". You're taking a made-up story and attributing it to someone else.
The issue here is that NASA LIED, aaccording to the sources provided.
And once again, you believe, unhesitatingly and unquestioningly, in sources with no credibility whatsoever.
I meant your spiritual friends here who are your brothers in the faith of Apollo
Pot, kettle, black. See above.
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Post by sts60 on Sept 22, 2006 14:53:09 GMT -4
Here's another scenario to consider.
Somebody gins up a voice recording which purports to be an astronaut discussing an alien spacecraft.
Somebody hears this recording and asks NASA, "what about your astronaut reporting an alien spacecraft?", to which the spokesman naturally says something along the lines of "What the hell are you babbling about?", only much more politely. A denial, in other words, because in fact no astronaut aboard the Shuttle did any such thing.
Somebody then plays the recording to NASA spokesperson, who rolls his or her eyes and says, "Sounds like a joke to me."
This also accounts perfectly for the "denial, then joke" scenario without any dishonesty at all on NASA's part, and is in fact perfectly consistent with reality. This is in fact the scenario any impartial observer with minimal knowledge of the space program would probably envision first. But lionking roared (heh!) right by it in her haste to make NASA out to be "liars". What does that tell you?
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Post by lionking on Sept 22, 2006 14:59:41 GMT -4
My reasoning is what LO's presented site said that NASA hid the info until it was recorded, then they said it was a joke while the tone of the astronaut didn't seem to be joking. First this site claims NASA hid this "info", then said it was a joke. I am virtually certain that NASA did neither, that in fact the promulgators of this alleged exchange in fact simply made the story up. First they denied it, which was a lie, then they said it was a joke.The only lie I see is the story about NASA having anything to do with this cheesy story. It's not even a funny joke - anyone at all familiar with the U.S. space program would simply find it stupid, because it lacks the veneer of verisimilitude that makes for a good joke. See the devaluation of ppl's brains I was speaking aboutYou claim NASA "devalues people's minds", but every instance of this you have brought up has been debunked. But here you are again with a ridiculous story which you treat as gospel truth in your unswerving desire to paint NASA as a den of habitual liars. The only "devaluation" going on here is what you are doing. You can "devalue" my intelligence - I don't care - but you're also devaluing your own by such irrationality, which is a shame because I think you're an intelligent person. That was the best your friends could do.I believe this is what the psychologist call "projection". You're taking a made-up story and attributing it to someone else. The issue here is that NASA LIED, aaccording to the sources provided.And once again, you believe, unhesitatingly and unquestioningly, in sources with no credibility whatsoever. I meant your spiritual friends here who are your brothers in the faith of ApolloPot, kettle, black. See above. sts60 I took LO's introduction of this site as a sign of his belief in its credibility, since he didn't refute it. Besides, what do you call the previous video presented on another thread on this forum of people admitting some hidings of NASA's ET's? Can you please expand on this. Second, you say "but every instance of this you have brought up has been debunked. ", whereas this is not true at all. While this source can be uncredible, you didn't prove it is so. I think we'll have to contact them for more info.
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Post by lionking on Sept 22, 2006 15:01:20 GMT -4
As the claims of the site are not solid fact, this is not solid fact. You are smarter than "I am virtually certain" . What made you so certain?
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Post by echnaton on Sept 22, 2006 15:08:48 GMT -4
I meant your spiritual friends here who are your brothers in the faith of Apollo How right you are, we even have a Creed.
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Post by lionking on Sept 22, 2006 15:21:30 GMT -4
Here's another scenario to consider. Somebody gins up a voice recording which purports to be an astronaut discussing an alien spacecraft. Somebody hears this recording and asks NASA, "what about your astronaut reporting an alien spacecraft?", to which the spokesman naturally says something along the lines of "What the hell are you babbling about?", only much more politely. A denial, in other words, because in fact no astronaut aboard the Shuttle did any such thing. Somebody then plays the recording to NASA spokesperson, who rolls his or her eyes and says, "Sounds like a joke to me." This also accounts perfectly for the "denial, then joke" scenario without any dishonesty at all on NASA's part, and is in fact perfectly consistent with reality. This is in fact the scenario any impartial observer with minimal knowledge of the space program would probably envision first. But lionking roared (heh!) right by it in her haste to make NASA out to be "liars". What does that tell you? Stop meowing and imagining scenarios. The site should be contacted since they didn't say this scenario you said. I'll try to find email of them and contact them
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Post by lionking on Sept 22, 2006 15:38:09 GMT -4
Quoting the site of LO.
Was this said by NASA man?
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Post by lionking on Sept 22, 2006 15:40:44 GMT -4
echnaton you forgot to say Amen. You'll go to the hells of Mars without protection from radiation
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reynoldbot
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Post by reynoldbot on Sept 22, 2006 15:51:59 GMT -4
So what's the new issue here? I thought we all agreed that the astronaut alien transmissions were bupkis on the first page of this thread.
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