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Post by Obviousman on Mar 3, 2007 23:48:29 GMT -4
I yam what I yam.
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Post by scooter on Mar 3, 2007 23:55:27 GMT -4
David, do you realize the farce you have become? Everything a government conspiracy, or "could" be. Not only an American government conspiracy, but now ALL the spacefaring or even technologically aware nations are in on the Apollo coverup. Do you have the slightest idea how absolutely out of touch this all is? I have no idea as to the paranoid reality you live in, I cannot imagine it. What about the government in the country in which you are residing...I'm sure they monitor their internet users...most countries do you know... Check six, buddy, been "interesting". Another no data, no evidence, no proof guy...just ignorant on all the claims you make, spouting the thoughts and words of others. You are but a zombie, a robot. No study, no inquisitive nature, no curiosity about the arguments of the other side. You only see the world's events through your own very myopic eyes. Is there wrong in the world, in governments? Yes. Is it omnipresent, and are they all powerful...hardly, at least here in the US. So, all the history we know is wrong, created by evil governments. Apollo was a hoax because your sources say so. Have you even considered that you could be wrong...on any of your topics? Even in the slightest? Keep looking out, the powers are watching...you.
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Post by Data Cable on Mar 4, 2007 0:54:41 GMT -4
I gotta be meeeeeeeeeee...
Oh, and Rocky, thank you for finally seeing the light and agreeing with Phantomwolf and myself that the WTC was a hoax from day 1.
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Post by LunarOrbit on Mar 4, 2007 1:26:58 GMT -4
I'm saying that we can't believe everything we read and I'm giving examples of untruths that are in the press. Saying "John lied about X, that means he is lying about Y too." is basically what you are doing. Does the fact that you have told one lie automatically mean that everything else you say is a lie as well? Or do you agree that people can lie sometimes and still tell the truth in other cases? Is everything black or white for you, or are there shades of grey? The rules are perfectly clear. If you repeatedly take threads off-topic and disregard warnings from me you will be banned. I warned you about this and yet you continue to do it, so I therefore have no choice but to ban you. See you in one month... if you continue this behaviour when you return it will become a permanent ban. It's also quite easy to create videos or websites that claim all of the Apollo evidence is fake. The problem is you seem to hold NASA to a different standard than the creators of those videos and websites you link to. You automatically assume NASA is lying and that people who share your beliefs are telling the truth. Consider the possibility that the people you trust have ulterior motives for smearing NASA's reputation (ie. monetary gain, notoriety, etc.). If you're going to make an accusation then we expect you to support it with evidence, and so far you're failing to do that. If you say "the moon rocks were manufactured in a lab" then you have to demonstrate that this is possible and that it is what NASA actually did, otherwise all you have done is made an unfounded accusation. If you are going to say the astronauts are lying then you have to actually prove it, an accusation is not enough. Why can't you understand that? I could accuse you of being a pedophile, and using your logic that should be all it takes to get you locked up in a prison for the next 20 years... luckily we live in a land where mere accusations are not enough, we require proof. If I intend to accuse you of being a pedophile I have to be able to prove it, it is not up to you to prove that you are not one. The evidence appears to support NASA's claim that they sent men to the moon. You have provided nothing but baseless accusations, speculation, and rumours... none of which stands up to scrutiny.
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Post by BertL on Mar 4, 2007 1:29:37 GMT -4
Meh, he'll just go post Astronauts Gone Wild again then go away for another month.
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Post by JayUtah on Mar 4, 2007 2:50:48 GMT -4
Saying "John lied about X, that means he is lying about Y too." is basically what you are doing.
That would almost be defensible. What Rocky is doing is more like, "I think John lied about X, therefore Steve is lying about Y."
Consider the possibility that the people you trust have ulterior motives for smearing NASA's reputation (ie. monetary gain, notoriety, etc.).
And consider the many reasons we have given Rocky for mistrusting them, to which he has given no answer.
If I intend to accuse you of being a pedophile I have to be able to prove it, it is not up to you to prove that you are not one.
We live in a land that values proof enough that you would be on the hot seat after having made such an accusation without proof.
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Post by Apollo Gnomon on Mar 4, 2007 3:13:57 GMT -4
But Rocky doesn't, and doesn't understand that.
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Post by PeterB on Mar 4, 2007 21:19:08 GMT -4
Rocky
Out of interest, can you clarify, according to your beliefs, why did the USA choose to go to the Moon? Was it for propaganda reasons? Was it to make the USSR look second-rate in comparison?
If so, can you please explain why the USSR accepted the reality of Apollo?
Were the Americans able to fool the Soviets? Or did the Soviets know about it and go along with the fake?
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Post by Data Cable on Mar 4, 2007 21:29:29 GMT -4
Sorry, Pete... as noted above and here, you'll have to wait at least a month for a reply, if ever.
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Post by svector on Mar 5, 2007 0:28:45 GMT -4
Sorry, Pete... as noted above and here, you'll have to wait at least a month for a reply, if ever. ...or you can engage him on YT, where he goes by the name "straydog02"
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Post by hplasm on Mar 5, 2007 18:17:25 GMT -4
...or you can engage him on YT, where he goes by the name "straydog02" My God Professor! It's mutating again!!
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Post by dwight on Mar 5, 2007 18:38:39 GMT -4
Well Rocky, you brought your banning upon yourself, as you doubt will realise after your silent tantrum from the sidelines. I also hope you'll realise your inexcusable rudeness in ignoring, that is BLATANTLY IGNORING my simple questions regarding TV technology to you. You know full well that all the Apollo documentation is _NOT_ bogus, as 1. I doubt you have even read 1/100 of all of it, and 2. It is obvious that you lack any degree of knowledge to know what was bogus and what was not if indeed any of it was bogus.
Explain to me, if your ego allows, what part exactly of the TV technology used throughout Apollo was bogus, and why. My clock is running minus 1 month. I'll take a non-answer in 1 month as an admission of defeat, and I will happily overkill the publicity of my win just so it stays fresh in everyone's minds.
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Post by Apollo Gnomon on Mar 5, 2007 18:41:41 GMT -4
Sorry, Pete... as noted above and here, you'll have to wait at least a month for a reply, if ever. ...or you can engage him on YT, where he goes by the name "straydog02" YT? wuzzat?
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Post by Grand Lunar on Mar 5, 2007 19:05:32 GMT -4
...or you can engage him on YT, where he goes by the name "straydog02" YT? wuzzat? YouTube, I imagine.
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Post by dwight on Mar 5, 2007 19:57:16 GMT -4
YT makes Andy Warhole's prophecy ring true with alarming clarity.
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