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Post by Dead Hoosiers on Mar 4, 2006 0:55:28 GMT -4
I'm posting this for your enjoyment and discussion. Most of you will probably want to skip right to Chapter 2. Phaeton: The Missing Planet by astronomer J. Timothy Unruh www.ldolphin.org/unruh/planet/ |
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Post by PhantomWolf on Mar 4, 2006 2:16:28 GMT -4
Well one of the major problems with the whole "the asteriod belt was a planet" claim is that even if you add all the mass of the asterids togther, including the non-belt ones, they are still far smaller than the moon.
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Post by iamspartacus on Mar 4, 2006 12:13:13 GMT -4
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Post by grashtel on Mar 4, 2006 16:24:22 GMT -4
I haven't read the entire site as yet (and to be honest don't plan to) but there are several problems that I have noticed in what I have read.
A major problem with the idea that the asteroid belt was a planet that exploded is that to destroy an Earth sized planet requires a quite literally astronomical amount of energy, a back of the envelope calculation gets something in the order of the total of The Sun's output for a week as a minimum, and throwing debris out into cometary orbits would take much more.
Another problem is that many of the "unique features" of the asteroid belt aren't so unique. The Kupier belt shares many of the features of the asteroid belt such as crossing orbits, high eccentricities and even larger departures from the plane of the ecliptic.
Finally there are simple mistakes. For example the claim that Jupiter's gravity couldn't have disrupted the formation of the planet where the asteroid belt is because it is only three times that of Earth, making the mistake of assuming that the surface gravity has anything to do with the overall gravitational influence of a body without taking the bodies diameter into account.
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Post by lenbrazil on Mar 8, 2006 10:23:09 GMT -4
Unruh is an amateur astronomer and has no formal training in the field. As with “Creation scientists” his conclusions seem to be based more on his religious beliefs than anything else.
“The author, an architect and graphic artist as well as an avid astronomer, resides with his wife and three children near Sacramento, California and is an active member of Heritage Baptist Church which meets in nearby Folsom Also a member of the Bible Science Association and the Association for Biblical Astronomy, the author has published a number of books and articles relating observational astronomy to the individual. Activities also include teaching science and astronomy from a Biblical perspective to various school, Church, and home education groups via special programs featuring indoor narrated slide presentations and outdoor 'hands-on' experience of viewing the heavens through large portable telescopes”
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Post by thestargazer on Mar 9, 2006 16:56:43 GMT -4
A major problem with the idea that the asteroid belt was a planet that exploded is that to destroy an Earth sized planet requires a quite literally astronomical amount of energy, a back of the envelope calculation gets something in the order of the total of The Sun's output for a week as a minimum, and throwing debris out into cometary orbits would take much more. "The entire starfleet couldn't destroy the whole planet. It'd take a thousand ships with more firepower than I've..."  |
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