It's just like Rodin. If he can think of a way it might be faked, it is faked until someone else to proves him wrong.
JW's satellite theory is right out of a book called 'How to Make C**p up a You Go Along.' If it was not for the people he was denigrating and insulting, it would be hysterical. I can kind of understand an individual being convinced by the radiation argument, or the blast crater argument or even caught out by the no stars argument. I find it hard to take when it is blatant story telling.
This thread has turned into a bar conversation, as we sit and wait for Rodin to get back from the washroom.
don't think he will be back.
That last one even he accepted was crap.
When added to the RCS thruster "shadow" the LRO photos "taken by Kubrick", the moon rocks "made by a secret machine, the vacuum chamber the size of a football field, the need for a special machine to stop the wires supporting the astros crossing over as the astros crossed each others paths and NASA being able to identify up-front and bribe all the independent radio hams, I think even he may be starting to become self-aware.
On the other hand, stupidity has no bounds...............
Rodin, as I said previously, why wouldn't the "set people" use high velocity gas (an air hose) to simulate the actions of high velocity gas (the DPS nozzle) instead of a broom?
Rodin, I don't know if you have ever met TV folk, but they are the biggest blabbermouths you'll ever come across.
But Hagbard claims they were all hypnotised to stay quiet for eternity, along with the Astronauts, all of NASA, the Russians, Brits, and amateur radio trackers. He is yet to respond to the slight issue that who hypnotised all the hypnotists to keep quiet.
UK football field size or that other type they play over the pond? Important to get the facts right you know.
Well if it is Stoke City FCs ground they won't make it cos they put the touclines in as close as possible so that guy who takes the throw ins gets an advantage. If it was Arsenals pitch they might just make it, according to my calculations.
Maybe if Rodin feels his questions are not answered, he can list his ''unanswered' questions and agree to discuss each one until it is exhausted, before moving on to the next. What do you think to this Rodin? Is that a fair offer. I can't say if people here will want to trawl over the same arguments again, but you can give it a go. By the way, are you the same guy at YouTube who goes by the name TroddinSod?
Seconded. Lets structure the discussion around specific aspects and not move on to others until each one is closed. That will stop rodins evasion.
If rodin does not agree to this he clearly does not want to debate so banstick him.
What to make of the posts above mine? Do they contribute to the debate?
This is not a debate, rodin. To have a debate, both sides have to engage. You are steadfastly refusing to do so, avoiding direct questions that have been asked of you, ignoring answers to questions you have asked, and throwing more and more into the pot in the hope of tripping someone up somewhere.
Answer the questions that have already been put to you.
Agreed. There is no discussion or debate, just rodin slipping and sliding from one topic to another and hoping someone will slip up.
Mods - Get him to debate each issue fully and fairly or kick him back to the crop-circle reptilians. That is the only place wher ehe will get any support
Perhaps you can explain how a probe dangling from the leg of a self supporting rocket can cut a deep groove in a surface on which the feet of the lander make no indentation?
1: It's not dangling, it is fixed. It bent due to the weight of the LM.
2: Following on from that, while the probe was in contact the pressure of the weight of the descending LM is concentrated on the end of a thin probe.
3: The footpads have a large area to spread the weight over, hence make less indentation.
This is so BASIC that I don't believe you never even thought of it.[/quote
The reason he has not thought of that is because he has no mental capacity to.
He will just keep on avoiding questions directed to himself and post more garbage.
I wonder how he will get out of the conundrum that the spread weight of the feet is more likely to cause less indentation on the moon than on earth so his post and interpretation actually support the moon theory.
Wait for it - the LM was also suspended from cranes to replicate the lower gravity.
So the LM was suspended from a crane. The rover was lowered into position on a crane. The astros were all suspended from wires as they moved around.
Yep, the gold mylar should have been "tarnished" and "dusty" after traveling in space.
Mike Collins did spend a lot of time on Apollo 11 vacuuming up you know. Space dirt gets everywhere. He mentioned it in his book.
But he didn't need to vacuum the outside, cos its already a vacuum out there, hence the LM was already vacuumed. And even if he did go outside to vacuum, he would have died due to the Van Halen Belt hitting him.
Take note of point 4. Well, that settles it for me. I'm convinced by our resident Nazi.
10 - zero return visits to the surface since by so much as a nanobot 9 - No remote landing attempt before manned landing to test system 8 - Much footage looks natural speeded up 7 - Some pictures just don't make Lunar sense 6 - Astronauts lose ability to speak @ first press conference 5 - Lack of blown dust on surface A12 onwards 4 - Apollo supporting sites also deny 911 was a false flag operation 3 - Jump salute measures as not parabolic (contested) 2 - Ghost images that are not just due to successive scans on footage suggesting overlay 1 - My favorite Apollo picture:
I like the "pictures don't make lunar sense" one. What is lunar sense?
We are not denigrating - the purpose of this section is to discuss any hoax evidence and debunk it. If you happen to post stupid evidence, refuse to answer questions on it, and then (as you are now doing) post some different garbage, then you should expect to be criticised.
Some have come on this forum, asked questions, posted evidence, and discussed fully the alternative possibilities. That is the proper way to do it.
You don't. And for that reason you won't succeed in your quest. You will end up stuck over on the DIF with the crop-circle shapeshifter brigade.
The world awaits Fetzers rebuttal!!! Fetzer is, in line with all HBs when they get embarassed, claiming foul.
Hopefully he gets held to account now but I think he will run for cover now that another Mod has moved in to help Evan. Meanwhile Jack White now claims the forums are worthless. Well they certainly are when he is on them, so getting rid of him over to Icke may be the best solution for all.
The fact that the LM was maneuvering left and right during its last seconds of descent. What makes you think the engine was above only one point on the ground?
He hasn't thought of that. Over on Icke he says it is caused by, wait for it...........
A guy with a broom who mistakenly brushed the surface dust the wrong direction. This was then not spotted by the continuity folk on set, then to add insult to injury, they script Armstrong to look under the bell and draw the whole worlds attention to the faulty brushwork.