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Post by thetart on Sept 21, 2010 3:27:42 GMT -4
Obvious troll is obvious. You know, I doubted that for quite some time. But then he came out with this on DIF: I don't really think a massive underground vac chamber - but I keep it in reserve just to annoy the AH-ers (alls fair etc) davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?s=02161b2a0e15f23757fc7b18f2d555b5&p=1059255400&postcount=728So he admits that he states stuff he doesn't believe just in order to wind people up because that's what he thinks you do when debating facts with people who demand evidence for extraordinary claims. Give me a T, give me an R.... Confirmed Troll. Ban him. He will go crying back to Icke that his intelligent arguments defeated people on here and the crop-circle alien brigade will congratulate him for his victory. But that is a price worth paying to keep racist trolls off this board.
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Post by thetart on Sept 20, 2010 15:54:18 GMT -4
Rodin seems to have abandoned any pretense of trying to prove there is some meaningful anomaly in the footage he was originally looking at. I suspect he has finally realized that his efforts were hopeless and is trying to bury the thread in nonsense. Well the fact that he can't tell the difference between a shadow on the surface and an outline of the thruster itself disproves his claim to know anything about filming or photography. Is he Jack White?
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Post by thetart on Sept 20, 2010 15:05:10 GMT -4
Blown up it does look to follow ground contours as you would expect from a shadow. So you think it's a shadow? The RCS thrusters expanded in the lunar sunlight to 800 times their original size. If you are rodin that is.
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Post by thetart on Sept 20, 2010 14:56:52 GMT -4
rodin. Instead of posing "simple" (i.e. dumb) questions, why don't you start answering some?
Explain, without "could have been" in your answer, the many hours of continuous footage. If it was shot on the Earth then slowed down, how come when you speed it up it does not look possible?
There - thats a simple question. How about you explain how the slowing down trick was done, with examples to prove your point.
On the other hand, jusy keep dodging the truth and keep on with the racist stuff.
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Post by thetart on Sept 14, 2010 19:10:51 GMT -4
What's to stop them just ramming layers into a tube? To make a solid core of rock? Please tell me you are joking. rodin does not joke. NASA "could" have invented a machine to weld the rocks together inside the core.
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Post by thetart on Sept 13, 2010 22:39:13 GMT -4
Well Rodin has started a thread on Gamma rays... Started and then promptly abandoned once it was shown that he'd have to provide more than handwaving and insinuation. It's pretty obvious at this point that Rodin is a committed believer in the hoax theory. As others have before him, he's searching for some pseudo-intellectual reason to keep believing in it. That's why he's satisfied with explanations only that it "could" be fake. As long as he can pseudo-intellectually hold out hope that the Moon landings "might" be fake, he's happy and his worldview remains intact. But using rodins own logic, he is a racist. Well he could be a racist, therefore by his own logic he is.
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Post by thetart on Sept 10, 2010 11:11:04 GMT -4
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Post by thetart on Sept 10, 2010 9:44:52 GMT -4
Well, the atmosphere counts for something. Life on the ISS would be a bit more exciting, though. What about the Van Allen belts also? What about them? Have you researched their effects? Are you aware Van Allen worked for NASA on the Project? No. Instead you now have three threads running and you continually raise new issues without defending your previous claims. Its a common HB tactic. Remember the falling astronaut video? The poster awaits your explanation of that. But we know you can't, so your alternative is to move onto something else. Now you move into the White thread and start going OT to derail that one. Mods - Ban stick. He is not interested in debating the issues or defending his claims.
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Post by thetart on Sept 9, 2010 15:45:25 GMT -4
Rodin,
Stick to the topic (the moon rocks, in case you've forgotten). Your thoughts on the cold war can be discussed in the following thread started specifically for you:
Rodin's Cold War fakery evidence
Do no post about any conspiracy theories unrelated to the Apollo hoax theory in this section of the forum. This is not the place for 9/11 discussions, and I will not tolerate any anti-semitic bigotry. I think that given the quality of his posts he is trolling for fun. But the jew-hating has to stop. rodin - There is a thread on the jump (which you seem to have forgotten). There is a thread about faked moon rock. Both these threads are there for you to post your evidence and answer challenges. On the other hand why don't you just stay over on DIF with your crop-circle pals. You will get much more support over there. Mods - I'd suggest that if rodin continues to avoid a real discussion then ban him. He will go crying over on Icke that he has "won" but there are plenty of posters over there who will point out the truth.
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Post by thetart on Sept 8, 2010 16:02:21 GMT -4
So, Jack White finds a random pic on some random photo-library website, and Fetzer just accepts it blindly as a fake moon image which 'proves' the hoax. He doesn't bother to check the provenance of the image, or do even the most basic research. He just includes it in his argument immediately and starts battling against anyone who disagrees. This is not exactly Wittgenstein, is it? It certainly seems a bit moronic. Jack White and Jim Fetzer are researchers? rofl. Jack posts a photo. He is asked which mission it is from. Jack replies that he doesn't know and the questioner should find out for himself! Great research Jack. The questioner confirms that it is not an Apollo photo. Your move Jack!!!! 5 dollars says Jack will just duck out of it. Jim - If you are reading this you have been duped. either keep on digging a hole for yourself or come clean now.
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Post by thetart on Sept 8, 2010 6:23:59 GMT -4
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Post by thetart on Sept 7, 2010 7:17:01 GMT -4
You could have finished with...........
Barts mouth absorbs impact, a joy for all mankind.
10/10 unless your tutor is a HB.
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Post by thetart on Sept 7, 2010 3:52:09 GMT -4
The whole "debate" is being hijacked by Jack White whose posts are getting more and more desperate. He also is ignoring the rules of engagement.
I'm surprised the Mods over there let him get away with it.
Some "Education" forum!
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Post by thetart on Sept 2, 2010 3:51:21 GMT -4
Just from my point of view I don't feel that Evan has adressed this issue very well. He seems to be saying that the dust thrown about by the wheels is responsible, and this is something that Jim has jumped on. In fact, and the Image posted by Evan shows this very well, it is the Astronauts walking about that has kicked the dust over the tracks. The soil about the rover is very obviously disturbed, and there is even a footprint right were the track would have previously been. Also the wide area image is one that might need the tracks pointed out unless it's a trap to make Jim claim it has not tracks in it either. Maybe it would have been worth looking at the transcripts to see if it can be determined when the rover stopped moving then when the photo was taken. If there was a significant time between the two then that strenghtens the case that the dust would have been disturbed by Astro activity.
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Post by thetart on Sept 1, 2010 17:27:44 GMT -4
Flezer also says "the rarified atmosphere on the moon". So now he is claiming the moon has an atmosphere. Did he get his PhD in stupidity?
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