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Post by scooter on Jul 7, 2011 11:22:10 GMT -4
For scooter, They shot the lasers right away. There were reporters at Lick Observatory on 07/20/1969 ready to report the Eagle had been found, and found most precisely. But alas, it was not until August after trying many times each day for many days that they "found" Tranquility Base. What a drag to have been given that asignment as a journalist, go hang out at Lick Observatory and the thing never happened. Oh well. ...and so it goes. Mike Collins never saw them either, through his magnifying optics from his 60 mile high orbit. just a clarification...I was speaking of Collins locating the Tranquility Base landing site from lunar orbit, not any laser shots (which are very brief as I understand it, small fractions of a second...which would be tough to photograph from the Moon even if you could see them).
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Post by scooter on Jul 7, 2011 11:01:43 GMT -4
I would imagine if one were on the surface of the moon and shielded from the sun's glare, one would see stars under a variety of circumstances regardless of the side one were on and regardless of the shielding mechanism. Apparently, many professional astronomers, including NASA'a own Eric Christian agree with that point. I have already given my reference for the Christian quote/statement. So yes I agree and others with greater knowledge than I have as regards such matters of star visibility agree as well. Define "sun's glare". I would assume this would include any light from the bright lunar surface as well. You are cherrypicking quotes. You find a statement, which, when taken alone and out of context, appears to somehow contradict some "official" line. Have you spoken to any of your sources...Lick, Christian, et al and specifically asked them if they thing the missions were faked, based on your interpretation of their statements? If not, why not? This is clearly your agenda, why hide behind a pretense of objectivity? Just look at your thread titles here and at BAUT, this speaks volumes.
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Post by scooter on Jul 7, 2011 2:05:01 GMT -4
For scooter, They shot the lasers right away. There were reporters at Lick Observatory on 07/20/1969 ready to report the Eagle had been found, and found most precisely. But alas, it was not until August after trying many times each day for many days that they "found" Tranquility Base. What a drag to have been given that asignment as a journalist, go hang out at Lick Observatory and the thing never happened. Oh well. ...and so it goes. Mike Collins never saw them either, through his magnifying optics from his 60 mile high orbit.
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Post by scooter on Jul 7, 2011 2:01:14 GMT -4
I am not sure what I am supposed to deal with. I'll just stick with the language of the astronauts, verbatim, "Stars' images, easily seen...." Fine with me. see post#63...CZ nailed it.
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Post by scooter on Jul 7, 2011 1:26:55 GMT -4
Were they shooting lasers that early?
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Post by scooter on Jul 7, 2011 0:49:54 GMT -4
...an astronaut, in an unofficial capacity, said that. How many other astronauts made the same claim? Let me guess...none, because they got the memo not to contradict Armstrong.
Really? What about the rocks? The tracking by the Soviets? The visual sightings/photographs by amature astronomers? All of the science? The reflectors? What about Launch Complex 39? It sure has functioned well since being created as a Hollywood set.
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Post by scooter on Jul 7, 2011 0:43:25 GMT -4
I hope things are going well for you these days, Jay. very ditto
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Post by scooter on Jul 7, 2011 0:28:22 GMT -4
"Easily seen..."
OK...do astronomers have to deal with light scattering from a bright surface? No, they observe at night, preferably from a dark location, through an eyepiece. I think the "easily seen" was an exaggeration. I'm quite sure, given a proper location and the ability to block out the relatively bright surface reflection, that stars would be visible. Would they be visible while going about the surface work routine...I doubt it.
I think you're going on about it like this book was a technical debrief, accurate to a gnat's butt. Some use Aldrin's "testimony" on a Sesame Street episode about all the stars he saw while on the Moon in much the same way...I'll put it down to literary license.
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Post by scooter on Jul 7, 2011 0:14:08 GMT -4
[quote author=fattydash board=theories thread=3198 post=91497 time=1310011663Per astronaut Shepard and Slayton, Head of Astronaut Selection;
" "Where were the stars?" the myth believers then asked. The cameras that NASA sent to the moon had to use short exposure times to take pictures of the bright lunar surface and the moonwalkers' white spacesuits. Stars' images, easily seen by the moonwalkers, were too faint and underexposed to be seen as they are in photographs taken from space shuttles and the International Space Station. "[/quote]
is there a problem with this statement?
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Post by scooter on Jul 7, 2011 0:06:55 GMT -4
When was it that Mr Armstrong said that he looked for stars and couldn't see any?
I personally think he had lots more interesting things to look at, and many more important things to do than look at/for stars. They had very serious time constraints on that first landing EVA. The later crews, not so much, with a lot more surface time available.
Frankly, being on the surface of the Moon...kicking material undisturbed for eons...maybe sighting a star or two just didn't register as important enough to even remember. Just my conjecture, which I readily admit to.
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Post by scooter on Jul 6, 2011 21:34:09 GMT -4
Now, what are the chances of our "doctor" ffriend going to the trouble of researching these obscure bits of information? Negligable, I would bet.
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Post by scooter on Jul 6, 2011 20:57:17 GMT -4
The point as regards to why script an illness in a fake Apollo mission has to due with the perception of authenticity. It simply makes the whole thing more "realistic". Who would fake sick astronauts? And it sort of works until one examines what was actually done. It is space window dressing on Apollo theater. You don't even KNOW what was "actually done". You're just wrapped around the axle of this "medical" thing which must be bogus (in your mind) because it doesn't fit your preconceived notions. The real world knows and recognizes that Apollo went as stated. Those who argue topics they know little or nothing about are the "doubters". Go start a "doctors for truth" website or something...
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Post by scooter on Jul 6, 2011 16:24:10 GMT -4
To the "doctor(s)"... Ever heard of medical confidentiality? Not everything from the missions is going to be in the "debrief". They still go "secure" on the shuttle/ISS when talking to the flight surgeons.
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Post by scooter on Jul 3, 2011 17:16:51 GMT -4
I always thought that "safe room" was at the end of the slidewire basket lines. Those were around for Apollo, weren't they? Is there a room at the bottom of the slice wires, or just that APC?
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Post by scooter on Jun 25, 2011 13:10:06 GMT -4
I wish he would make a presentation there about his conspiracy theory...you know, go through the hoops and actually get up at the podium and talk.
Now that would be entertaining to watch.
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