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Post by margamatix on Oct 2, 2005 13:51:58 GMT -4
Please examine the video of the TeleTubby moon walkers, here www.futuresunltd.com/sudarshan/realaudio/Ap16_TeleTubbyMoonWalkers.rmThere are two astronauts in this clip. The camera followes the closest astronaut, who moves in the strange skipping gait often seen used by astronauts. But look at the rearmost astronaut. He is simply walking, left right, left, right, using exactly the same perambulation as someone moving on Earth. A totally different motion. Why is this? Incidentally, I see that Lunar Orbit has felt fit to introduce a new set of rules, and I reproduce part of them here....... 9. Getting Yourself Banned I try to be a fair man, and I do not enjoy banning people. If you follow all of the above rules you should be safe. You might even get away with breaking one or two of them occassionally. However, repeatedly breaking any of those rules may result in getting banned either temporarily or permanently. The decision to ban someone is entirely up to the administrator. It won't always be fair. I will take a user's past behaviour into account when they break a rule... if they made 1000 posts without breaking a rule and then suddenly went crazy and broke all of them... I might let them off the hook with a warning. On the other hand, if I don't like someone and they break one minor rule I might use that as an excuse to ban them. Lunar Orbit seems to be having some trouble in deciding whether he is a fair man or not, but this rule, and rule 7 seem to be squarely aimed at just a couple of users. In case I am not around for much longer, I would like to thank those users with whom I have shared courteous, civil and adult debate.
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Post by margamatix on Oct 1, 2005 18:42:41 GMT -4
There is dust, and there are clumps thrown up by the rally car. This is all to be expected on Earth, since there is moisture on Earth. Moisture causes soil to "clump"
Soil thrown up from the Lunar Rover also "clumped", although there is no moisture on the moon.
How could the soil from the Lunar Rover form clumps?
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Post by margamatix on Oct 1, 2005 18:32:39 GMT -4
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Post by margamatix on Oct 1, 2005 18:16:12 GMT -4
Just a couple of observations Margamatix from someone who hasn't really got involved in these debates except to read them all. Firstly, in order for anything you produce her to be considered "evidence" it must at least demonstrate what you claim that it does. Producing a video clip and saying that it is "obvious that it shows this", when several other board members can clearly explain the reasons why it doesn't show that is not evidence, no matter how many times you repeat the original claim. Second, a very wise (fictional) character once said ... while all answers are replies, not all replies are answers. I suggest you bear that in mind when you are accused of not having answered the questions asked of you. When you receive a long and comprehensive response, debunking one of your arguments, simply restating your original argument is not and answer ... though it is a reply. Please just read what I have to say with an open mind. By the way, the answer to your signature is 42. But then you knew that already!
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Post by margamatix on Oct 1, 2005 17:04:00 GMT -4
Hey, hey...put me in the box too! As requested, done.
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Post by margamatix on Oct 1, 2005 16:50:54 GMT -4
I have been advocating your bannshment from this forum for weeks . Well thanks for that Bob, you're in the same box as Kiwi now. Bye!
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Post by margamatix on Oct 1, 2005 16:49:16 GMT -4
Can you possibly claim you have returned the favor, and looked at MY evidence? I read every message posted and try to examine all of the evidence presented to me.However, because of my job, my family and other commitments, it's quite possible that I have not examined the evidence that you have offered. If this is the case, then I apologise. I can only deal with so many people at once, but the name "nomuse" is one I will look out for from now on, so you can be assured that I will reply personally to any message you post in the future. I do not ignore anybody, but you must appreciate that I cannot possibly reply to everybody who asks a question of me.
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Post by margamatix on Oct 1, 2005 16:27:36 GMT -4
We've already provided everything you've requested. If it's not good enough for you then there is nothing more for you to accomplish here. It seems the sensible thing for you to do is just go away. Sorry Bob, that cheap appeal simply won't wash. It didn't happen, and I have provided you with bucketloads of evidence that it didn't happen. If you don't want me here on the ApolloHoax forum pointing out that Apollo was hoaxed, then I suggest you send a private message to Admin asking that my account be deleted. Otherwise, I suggest you continue to read with an open mind, the evidence I present to you.
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Post by margamatix on Oct 1, 2005 16:20:47 GMT -4
They say a picture is worth a thousand words. Are you seriously suggesting that this travelled to the Moon?
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Post by margamatix on Oct 1, 2005 16:14:54 GMT -4
I don’t really care what you believe. My beef with you is that you’re willfully ignorant and pigheaded. (This is an observation, not an insult.) No, it's an insult. The adjective "pigheaded"- ie with a head comparable to that of a pig- can never be anything other than an insult. Not that I mind. Call me all the names you want!
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Post by margamatix on Oct 1, 2005 15:49:47 GMT -4
For example, we tried many different ways of wording the same question: "Do you trust Bart Sibrel after it has been demonstrated that he doesn't know what he's talking about?" (the key part of the question being: "do you trust Bart Sibrel") All right then. Yes, I do. I do trust Bart Sibrel, in as far as it is possible to trust someone I have never met. In any event, I do not dis-trust him. I believe that what he is saying is right. I believe that we have never been to the moon, that it was all faked, that the film footage was taken in the Nevada desert, that the footage presented is simply Earth footage run at half-speed, I believe that the "astronauts" are wracked with guilt and shame at what they have done, I believe that Buzz Aldrin is a liar, a thief and a cheat. And although I have not believed this for very long, I believed all of it before I had ever even heard the name "Bart Sibrel"I once believed, as you do, that the Apollo landings actually happened. In a way, I feel a fool that I did. But people believe many things that Government tells them. I changed my mind. I'm more than prepared to change it back. But first, you have to give me reason to do so.
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Post by margamatix on Oct 1, 2005 14:32:19 GMT -4
. "Offensive" would be insulting people (calling them names, etc.). . What, like calling somebody "drunk", or "delusional" or even (gasp) BART SIBREL!!!!!!
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Post by margamatix on Oct 1, 2005 14:27:30 GMT -4
On the Moon the dirt kicked up by the rover would not hang because there was no air, it would travel in a predictable arc from the tires of the rover and then back down to the ground. So how come Eugene Cernan said "The dust got everywhere, into our suits and into all moving parts"? Surely NASA could have explained the script to him a little better? And now I'm going to attract flak because I've mentioned this before. Well, I have, but it's YOU that isn't listening.
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Post by margamatix on Oct 1, 2005 14:23:11 GMT -4
I'm refering to all of the questions you refuse to answer. I'm refering to all the times people have put a lot of effort into responding to one of your claims only to have you repeat the exact same claim as if it hadn't been debunked. . I don't refuse to answer questions. In fact, I have just answered one on the behaviour of sand. However, because it is not the answer that the questioner would like to see, then this will be categorised as me "failing to reply". I showed you footage of Charlie Duke being jerked up on a wire. You say "Oh no, that isn't happening". When I say "Yes it is, you can clearly see it is with your own two eyes", then that doesn't seem to constitute an answer either. And of course, because I drive a truck, and am not home in the week most weeks, that seems to cause offence too. Well, if anyone would care to pay me a wage, I'll sit here and chew the fat with you all week. But until then, I'm often not around and you'll just have to accept that.
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Post by margamatix on Oct 1, 2005 14:14:55 GMT -4
Marg - If you're walking on the beach and you kick at the sand you'll see a couple different things happening.. Here is Margate, where I live and where I walk the kids and dog along the beach every day that I am home. The larger particles of sand will get kicked up a few feet and then fall right back down just like we see in the clips. The smaller, tiny little particles of dust and sand stay in the air a little longer like a cloud....a dust cloud. . They do no such thing.
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