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Post by rustylander on Mar 4, 2006 22:20:00 GMT -4
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Post by Dead Hoosiers on Mar 4, 2006 22:40:05 GMT -4
We need to take executive order power away from all presidents for all time. It's like, unconstitutional to permit one man to decide law. Might as well be dictatorship. I've quit calling my congressman. He doesn't give a damn and told me so. He also doesn't think upholding the constitution is very important. Almost all of them are in on it.
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Post by turbonium on Mar 4, 2006 23:06:22 GMT -4
What do you mean, "now the President can do whatever he likes"? Seems to me like he's been able to do whatever he likes since he first occupied the White House!   |
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Post by echnaton on Mar 4, 2006 23:56:12 GMT -4
My quick search on the Library of Congress Thomas site shows no bill by that name, resembling that name or containing the words attributed to this supposed law. Does anyone have an actual bill number? The quotes given in the blog article seem too good to be true, like they are made up. I am not sure this writer has all his facts straight.
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Post by ktesibios on Mar 5, 2006 0:53:01 GMT -4
I admire everyone's ability to keep a straight face while pretending not to recognize a fictional piece whose satirical intent couldn't be more obvious if it were dancing naked in the middle of the street and firing flares. I couldn't do it.  |
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Post by turbonium on Mar 5, 2006 1:12:49 GMT -4
"Is our children learning?" Without doubt, this is a most profound question raised by our articulate leader. But perhaps we should also ask... "Is we adults learning?"  |
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Post by octoman on Mar 5, 2006 12:49:08 GMT -4
Did anyone but me notice that the dateline on the Russian column was January, about an event in April?
I guess the russians perfected seeing into the future?
And does anybody really think naming an act EBOLA would help it get past?
The russian presidency has siezed unbelievable power in the last 12 years. This column is nothing more that political "projecting," to use the freudian term.
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lenbrazil
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Post by lenbrazil on Mar 7, 2006 10:09:20 GMT -4
We need to take executive order power away from all presidents for all time. It's like, unconstitutional to permit one man to decide law. Might as well be dictatorship. I've quit calling my congressman. He doesn't give a damn and told me so. He also doesn't think upholding the constitution is very important. Almost all of them are in on it. Executive orders are most certainly NOT unconstitutional and that is coming from a card carrying member of the ACLU. I challenge you to find a constitutional scholar who backs your position. The congress has the power to pass laws. It is up to the executive branch to carry out and enforce those laws. Executive orders direct how those laws will be carried out and enforced. Executive orders can not over ride legislation. For example Truman desegregated the armed services by executive order, if segregation had been mandated by law he could not have done so. As for your congressman, he is probably tired of being pestered with nonsense complaints. You say that most of the congress is “in on it”. If by that you mean to normally blindly do what ever Bush wants I agree. If you meant “be in on” some secret conspiracy to override the constitution I don’t think there is much evidence for that and if it were true the president’s ability to rule by decree would be irrelevant. It is true that executive orders on occasions have exceeded the president’s constitutional authority, like authorizing surveillance without warrants. Normally in these situations an uproar is created in congress even by legislators from the president’s party. Several cases have gone to the Supreme Court which usually rules against the executive branch. This being said I agree that Bush has pushed the limits of presidential power further than any of his recent predecessors and that this not a good development. Hopefully in the 2006 and 2008 American voters will take corrective action. I just hope the ballots are fairly counted. Once again my impression is that you get ALL your info from CT sites. |
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Post by lenbrazil on Mar 7, 2006 10:15:35 GMT -4
I agree it's hard to imagine anybody couldn't figure out that was a joke, it even says so on the page. But Octoman, where did you get the part about the article being Russian? It isn't AFAICT. Len Did anyone but me notice that the dateline on the Russian column was January, about an event in April? I guess the russians perfected seeing into the future? And does anybody really think naming an act EBOLA would help it get past? The russian presidency has siezed unbelievable power in the last 12 years. This column is nothing more that political "projecting," to use the freudian term. |
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Post by octoman on Mar 7, 2006 23:24:08 GMT -4
My mistake. I understand what it says now.
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