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Post by apollo13 on May 27, 2007 10:00:44 GMT -4
I don't know if I should really believe in the moon landings, because I see video's in YT that make me believe they landed on the moon and other video's make me not believe they landed on the moon.Can somebody tell me if I should should belive or not belive it.
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Post by Jason Thompson on May 27, 2007 10:05:22 GMT -4
What you should do is get away from Youtube and do some more detaled research. The answers cannot be found on an internet streaming video site where anyone can post what they want.
Go and find books about Apollo and space in general. Go and read up on the basic science. Apollo is not a matter of belief, it is a matter of empirical fact. Either it happened or it did not. The vast majority of evidence says it did.
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Post by apollo13 on May 27, 2007 10:06:52 GMT -4
Thanks, for the help!
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Post by JayUtah on May 27, 2007 10:10:28 GMT -4
And ask questions. That's mostly why we're here.
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Post by apollo13 on May 27, 2007 10:28:01 GMT -4
Ok, why did the US have to cancel apollo's 18-20?
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Post by JayUtah on May 27, 2007 10:33:50 GMT -4
Short answer: budget.
Long answer:
Nixon came to power. He didn't really like space, and he particularly didn't like Apollo because that was Kennedy and Johnson's triumph and everyone knew it. Nixon had no use for a space program and so quietly dismantled most of it.
The public lost interest. And when the public loses interest in something that's funded by taxes, it tends to go away. Jim Webb, the NASA administrator during the early Apollo era, made some enemies in Congress. He played political hardball and got funding for Apollo by means of some arm-twisting. So when Webb left, some in Congress relaxed.
NASA too was having second thoughts. Apollo 13 scared a lot of people. And so some in NASA thought it might be better to cut short the Apollo missions and end on a high note, and then move on to bigger and better things such as the space shuttle. In retrospect that doesn't seem wise, but it's what people thought back then.
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Post by apollo13 on May 27, 2007 10:37:46 GMT -4
Thanks for the help!
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Post by scooter on May 27, 2007 10:49:39 GMT -4
The record of the Apollo program (and Mercury and Gemini as well) is vast. There remains very much technical and photographic information on the web, as well as in libraries. If the program was indeed "faked", then that would require the creation of this enormous documentation trail, entirely consistant with a functional Moon landing program. www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/main.htmlwww.geocities.com/bobandrepont/pdfspace.htmHere are a couple of sites that have a LOT of excellent information on the Apollo program, and the flights. If you have any questions, the folks here are very, very smart on spaceflight and the technical aspects of it. They can certainly answer your questions. Welcome aboard! Dave
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Post by apollo13 on May 27, 2007 12:31:01 GMT -4
Thanks for that...........................
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Post by HeadLikeARock (was postbaguk) on May 27, 2007 13:04:46 GMT -4
Welcome to this forum, Apollo13. I must say it's a pleasant change for someone who'd unsure about Apollo to seem quite open-minded about the issue.
Many theories put forward by people who advocate that the Apollo landings were faked can seem plausible to the layperson, but they tend to be founded on a poor understanding of science or photography. I admit that's how I got interested in the Apollo hoax, simply because I didn't have a satisfactory explanation for various things seen in photographs that were claimed to proof that the photos were taken on Earth. The "disappearing fiducials" for example.
What is the single biggest thing for you that makes you think the landings "might" have been faked?
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Post by BertL on May 27, 2007 13:10:53 GMT -4
Welcome, Apollo13. Prepare to be flooded with posts by people here.
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Post by Jason on May 27, 2007 14:26:22 GMT -4
Go have a look at the Moon Base Clavius website (there's a link at the bottom of the page). It's put together well and answers a lot of the common conspiracist claims.
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Post by apollo13 on May 27, 2007 14:28:55 GMT -4
Look good, I'll check it out! Well anyways the reason I think the moon landings were faked because the reflection in the astronauts visor and reflections on the back of there air supply.
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Post by hplasm on May 27, 2007 14:47:17 GMT -4
Look good, I'll check it out! Well anyways the reason I think the moon landings were faked because the reflection in the astronauts visor and reflections on the back of there air supply. which one then? seconds out - round one.
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Post by nomuse on May 27, 2007 17:04:42 GMT -4
You shouldn't "Believe" in anything. Belief is for religion.
You should look at the evidence for and against Apollo, understand it to the best of your ability, and take any claims made by any party in the debate to independent verification where possible.
The claim is stars should (or should not) have shown up in the surface photography? You have a camera, I'm sure. You can replicate, with varying degrees of sophistication, that photographic situation and educate yourself on basic photographic realities.
I have found, and I hope you find, that what is said in support of Apollo agrees with everything I have learned from old books, personal experience, science classes -- those parts of the bodies of physics, mechanics, astronomy, and so forth which I have been fortunate enough to encounter during my lifetime.
Conversely, the claims by the loudest of the hoax believers do not agree with anything else I have encountered in the world, they lack internal agreement and violate their own internal logic, and where directly testable (reproducing the same "kitchen science" tests the hoax believers themselves have claimed to do) they fail to produce the claimed results.
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