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Post by frenat on Nov 26, 2007 17:23:56 GMT -4
Exactly. Which is why evidence for Apollo is routinely dismissed out of hand by committed hoax believers; why new evidence (e.g., imagery of Apollo landing artifacts) will be dismissed out of hand by committed hoax believers; and why these same HBs routinely dismiss those who support Apollo as "government disinformationists". They already dismiss evidence that hasn't even been presented yet. On the David Icke forum there are a few HBs that have already said that pictures of the landing sites from upcoming probes would not convince them as they could have been placed there since the 60's by robotic craft. When asked about the tracks the robots would have left they speculated that perhaps the robots would have booted feet or the artifacts could have been left and all the footprints made by a craft hovering above the surface. Another said they could have left the craft and footprints on an expedition out from one of their many "secret" bases elsewhere on the moon.
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Post by Count Zero on Nov 26, 2007 17:48:28 GMT -4
I'm sure that oldschool will be back to wave the "no stars", "non-parrallel shadows" and "missing rover tracks" banner though.
Don't forget the pre-pentium computers, flimsy LEM, and (of course) the "searing radiation hell."
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Post by Ginnie on Nov 26, 2007 19:37:08 GMT -4
So is everyone telling me that there will be HB forever? Surely there will come a day when there will be no doubt of the Apollo missions. Maybe when we have outposts on the Moon. Nah, I guess then they'd say we have solved the radiation issue, but it wasn't possible in the sixties and seventies to do that. My word, someone get a HB into space please!
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Post by Jason on Nov 26, 2007 19:40:04 GMT -4
HBers probably will be around forever - although they'll probably decline in numbers if we ever get a sizeable proportion of the Human race off of Earth.
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Post by Grand Lunar on Nov 26, 2007 20:01:33 GMT -4
So is everyone telling me that there will be HB forever? Surely there will come a day when there will be no doubt of the Apollo missions. Maybe when we have outposts on the Moon. Nah, I guess then they'd say we have solved the radiation issue, but it wasn't possible in the sixties and seventies to do that. My word, someone get a HB into space please! My own guess is that when humanity becomes a Type 1 civilization, with colonization of the solar system getting underway, the HB crowd will begin to vanish. A few die hards may remain, but they'll likely have a lesser audience than before. By the time humanity is a Type 2 civilization, HBs may at last be gone.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Nov 26, 2007 20:19:38 GMT -4
You're an optimist. My thought is that stupidity will survive longer than intelligence will.
Fred
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Post by Grand Lunar on Nov 26, 2007 20:24:19 GMT -4
You're an optimist. My thought is that stupidity will survive longer than intelligence will. Fred Different brands of stupidity will arise to replace old ones. CTs will simply come up with something else to make themselves famous. Or infamous.
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Post by Ginnie on Nov 26, 2007 20:27:13 GMT -4
By the time humanity is a Type 2 civilization, HBs may at last be gone Is that gonna be a long time from now? Like before I die?
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Post by Grand Lunar on Nov 26, 2007 20:42:25 GMT -4
By the time humanity is a Type 2 civilization, HBs may at last be goneIs that gonna be a long time from now? Like before I die? It's estimated that at it's current rate, humanity will reach a Type 2 civilization by the year 7200, give or take.
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Post by Ginnie on Nov 26, 2007 22:08:34 GMT -4
By the time humanity is a Type 2 civilization, HBs may at last be goneIs that gonna be a long time from now? Like before I die? It's estimated that at it's current rate, humanity will reach a Type 2 civilization by the year 7200, give or take. Crap. I guess I won't be around to see it then. Unless of course reincarnation is real and one of my future lives is here to see it. BTW I've heard people ask, "If reincarnation is real, how come you can't remember your past lives?". And I say, "Can you remember when you were born? If you can't, how are you supposed to remember a life before that?"
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Post by JayUtah on Nov 27, 2007 22:42:55 GMT -4
Looks like oldman is a no-show. As they say where I come from: "All hat and no cattle."
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Post by PhantomWolf on Nov 27, 2007 23:08:23 GMT -4
You come from Texas?
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Post by JayUtah on Nov 27, 2007 23:30:03 GMT -4
Kansas. We say the same thing there.
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Post by oldman on Nov 28, 2007 1:38:47 GMT -4
"Except that most of the regulars here can knowledgeably explain exactly what's wrong with the alleged hoax evidence, thereby demonstrating what makes it worthless."
We'll see.
"The question now is whether you can do more than talk big about the accusations against the authenticity of Apollo."
Funny. I didn't feel like I was talking big.
"Around here bluster only lasts so long."
Apparently not.
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Post by oldman on Nov 28, 2007 1:40:30 GMT -4
Count Zero, you got one right! I'm back to talk about missing rover tracks. Explain to me if you will why the rover is missing its tire tracks in photo AS17-137-20979 after having traveled 9km across the moon's surface? Where is this discussed here? I searched the forum but couldn't find anything...
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