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Post by LunarOrbit on Jul 17, 2011 19:15:40 GMT -4
I've made fattydash's ban permanent after he created two more sock puppet accounts (briskwalk and mvinson). Both of the sock puppet accounts have been disabled.
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Post by rick on Aug 31, 2011 21:34:34 GMT -4
Bill Thompson says you edited his posts and even addes some that he never made. Then you used the faux posts to ban him. Why would he lie about that?
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Post by gillianren on Aug 31, 2011 21:47:14 GMT -4
Because he's a liar?
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Post by LunarOrbit on Aug 31, 2011 22:33:47 GMT -4
Bill Thompson says you edited his posts and even addes some that he never made. Then you used the faux posts to ban him. Why would he lie about that? Bill Thompson needs to get a life.
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Post by gillianren on Sept 1, 2011 0:09:21 GMT -4
Indeed. Bill Thompson needs to be the center of attention, and it's a lot harder to get that if you admit that the reason you were banned was for being a jerk.
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Post by chrlz on Sept 1, 2011 5:48:21 GMT -4
Bill Thompson says you edited his posts and even addes some that he never made. Then you used the faux posts to ban him. Why would he lie about that? Hi, Rick. This Bill Thompson? Da guys a genuous. How duz he nose so much abowt tellyscops and optiks!? Mazin. This same one? Respect, dood!!And ... you can't think of a reason he would 'lie'? Added - I just realised that while Rick's post immediately followed the info about fattydash, that he was probably not referring to his ban, just Bill Thompson's.. Oops. In which case, ignore the following text, which I have left for posterity and embarrassment (my own)... Let's cut to the chase - do you defend fattydash's conclusions and approach? And are you accusing Fattydash of lying - after all, he admitted he used sockpuppets. If you do support his claims, why don't you show that support and the depth of your knowledge by posting your views in the appropriate thread - starting with what you think was his best 'claim'...?
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Post by echnaton on Sept 1, 2011 9:25:15 GMT -4
Bill Thompson was a member here for quite some time. I can't say he was universally well liked, but he made a more or less positive contribution. Things changed and he began to get to edgy, resulting in a warning. In response he stated that he valued membership in this community and wanted to do what was needed to maintain participation. Nevertheless he continued with his edgy behavior and finally fell of the cliff. Maybe he is still bitter about that and blames LO. No one enjoys being kicked out of a community, particularity one that is an important part of your life. But we get judged on our actions, not our feelings.
Since you didn't post a link to his complaints, I'll just assume your reporting is accurate for this comment. If he would have let it drop, no one outside of this forum would even know he had been a member here. Instead he goes around trying to find allies for a battle he lost years ago and can't fight again. Continuing complaints about being banned only serve to reenforce the correctness of the decision to the ban him.
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Post by rick on Sept 1, 2011 19:14:11 GMT -4
He does not seem the type. What is the past post "he" made? I wonder if it would sound like something he would say. I also imagine we can tell based on when it was made and how soon he was banned. I am leaning towards what he says. If only a second passed from when the post was made to when he was banned, that is pretty suspicious. Does LO have a good rep outside this web forum? He says he was discussing religion and LO felt sorry for some Mormon. There was not enough done to justify banning him, so in order to safe face, LO invented some additional posts to make Bill Thompson look worse than he was and then straightaway ban him. Kind of seems plausable to me. Sounds like "Pious Fraud". Someone is claiming a religon is unethical and wrong and in doing so does something unethical and wrong? Yeah, right
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Post by PhantomWolf on Sept 1, 2011 21:16:24 GMT -4
Having look into using Proboards, I can say that it's not possible for a Admin to edit posts and create posts that look like it was done but a different user.
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Post by gillianren on Sept 1, 2011 21:45:52 GMT -4
To be fair, it might be possible for LO to get someone's password. But how is that more probable than that someone is trying to save face about why they were banned and make it look like someone else is at fault?
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Post by LunarOrbit on Sept 1, 2011 22:25:29 GMT -4
He does not seem the type. Of course YOU would say that, Bill. Yes, I know it's you. I've known it was you since the day you joined, and I've been pretty generous in not banning you for sock-puppety. If anyone is curious all of your posts are still here. Of course you altered some of them in your little meltdown. But all of the posts in which you obsessed over Jason's religious beliefs are still there for all to see. Your last post as Bill Thompson was on November 28, 2007 at 4:43pm. You edited it at 3:14pm the next day replacing it with a series of insults directed mostly at me. I banned you at approximately 12:30pm on November 30... almost 24 hours after you edited the post. Tell me, Bill... how could I have hacked your account? Even as the admin of the forum I can not access your password or even alter it. If I clicked on the "Forgot Password" link an email would be sent to you, not me. So maybe I should be flattered that you think I have the ability to hack into accounts, but I can't. I don't know... you tell me. You were not "discussing" religion. You were obsessing over another member's religious beliefs to the point that I considered it harassment. And the fact that you still can't get over the fact that Jason is a Mormon 4 years later proves that you are obsessed. Get over it. Get a life. Or maybe you're just a vindictive jerk who wants to tarnish my reputation because you can't get over the fact that I banned you 4 years ago. There are a lot of forums out there, Bill. You can even start your own. Quit obsessing over what happened to you here 4 years ago and move on. Sounds about as plausible as any of the other ridiculous conspiracy theories we encounter in this forum. And like I told you 4 years ago, I don't care if you don't like the religion. I'm an atheist, so I'm not about to defend any religion. But I will not tollerate you (or anyone else) harassing any member of this forum over their religious beliefs. I don't have to share someone's beliefs to understand that those beliefs are important to them. Now, I'm done playing games with you, Bill. I didn't have to allow you to rejoin the forum as "rick" two years ago. I didn't have to allow you to make 85 posts. But I did. If you want to test my patience go for it.
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Post by LunarOrbit on Sept 1, 2011 22:45:36 GMT -4
This is what I can edit in a member's profile. Basic stuff... not email addresses or passwords. Attachments:
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Post by Apollo Gnomon on Sept 1, 2011 23:35:07 GMT -4
I always find Bill Thompson's posts to be worth a laugh. He's an arrogant self-righteous Ess Oh Bee on every forum where I find his posts, but sometimes his annoying petulant opinioneering is amusing.
I vote: Don't punish "Rick" for the sins of "Bill" but let him hoist his own petard under the new name if he feels the need to do so.
Oh, and "rick:" don't push you're luck. LO wields a heavy ban-hammer around here, as I'm sure you've seen.
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Post by echnaton on Sept 2, 2011 7:54:06 GMT -4
Bill Thompson was a member here for quite some time. I can't say he was universally well liked, but he made a more or less positive contribution. Things changed and he began to get to edgy, resulting in a warning. In response he stated that he valued membership in this community and wanted to do what was needed to maintain participation. This seems to apply to you to, Rick. Is there a cliff in your future?
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Post by rick on Sept 2, 2011 13:02:37 GMT -4
the warnings are more or less "hey, this guy seems like a nice guy who is defending the religion he choose and you are a meany for hurting his feelings"
You repeatedly made personal comments to that regard saying time after time that you were tired of what he said.
So you were basically saying "this is my house and free speech is what I decide it to be"
It would appear that Thompson enjoyed being a member of his forum.
the posts that got him banned do not reflect either his personality or writing style.
I think he is not lying.
What is more, is there an email addres for LO? Is this web forum's admin open to the public?
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