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Post by Dead Hoosiers on Aug 23, 2005 1:11:49 GMT -4
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Post by gwiz on Aug 23, 2005 3:20:56 GMT -4
Without any data on whether the number of deaths are statistically significant, it's impossible to say whether this is anything to worry about, particularly as some appear to be from natural causes. How large is the pool of people who's deaths would qualify for inclusion and how many violent deaths would you expect?
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Post by frenat on Aug 23, 2005 9:38:05 GMT -4
How are we to know that this is more than should have dies during a normal year anyway?
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Post by snakeriverrufus on Aug 24, 2005 20:47:16 GMT -4
cmon, a good conspiracy advocate needs to supply motive. And how are these scientists connected? What do two wildlife researchers have in connection with a chemist in New Jersey?
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Post by PhantomWolf on Aug 24, 2005 23:08:31 GMT -4
I'd say that there's a bigger conspiracy to wipe out airline pilots, look at how many of them have died in the last few months. Tell me it's not just a coinsciedence.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Aug 25, 2005 7:57:28 GMT -4
Did you notice that TPTB used a remote controled Great White Shark to eat a marnie biologist in Australia today. Must have been something about those cuttlefish they didn't want him finding out.
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Post by sts60 on Aug 25, 2005 8:56:34 GMT -4
You know, I have one simple request - and that is to have sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads... now evidently my Cycloptic colleague tells me that can't be done. Now, can you remind me what I pay you people for? Honestly, throw me a bone here... What do we have?
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Post by PhantomWolf on Aug 25, 2005 9:18:03 GMT -4
Ill tempered mutated sea bass?
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Post by Dead Hoosiers on Jun 17, 2006 13:26:19 GMT -4
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Post by Obviousman on Jun 17, 2006 17:36:42 GMT -4
I'd say that there's a bigger conspiracy to wipe out airline pilots, look at how many of them have died in the last few months. Tell me it's not just a coinsciedence. Actually, airline pilots are an interesting example. There was a study some time ago (don't ask me for the link because I have no idea) that showed the suicide rate amongst retiring airline capatins was way above average. The general feeling is that these guys felt that once they were no longer on the flight deck, there was nothing really worth pursing. I think those numbers would have changed by now.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jun 17, 2006 21:26:46 GMT -4
And another one...Michael A. Dornheim
Ummm, he was a Journalist. This is another problem with the idea of "Scientists" being bumped off. "If you spread the definition so wide that it includes anyone that has studied science at collage and those that write about it, and every field, that's a huge number of people. That some might died in "Mysterious" circumstances, which only means that police are unsure as to what happened, is just a result of the lare numbers. No only that but you have no data on what percentage of mystery deaths are "scientists" compared to percentage of "scientists" to the general population. If they are about the same percentage, then again, all you have is a population based system. You are just arbitarily selecting your data to try and make a case. I could do the same by claiming that there are an unusual number of occurances of the letter "T" in association with another letter on this page. All I have to do is ignore the rest of the letters and point at the "T"s. That's all you are doing.
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Post by SpitfireIX on Jun 18, 2006 9:03:20 GMT -4
Note also that the "sample" detailed in the first link includes four who died violently in Iraq, two who were in their eighties, and one who died as a result of a research accident. Highly suspicious. As for the second link, the common theme appears to be the decedents' having worked for two British defense contractors Were we to study the work forces of all British defense contractors, we would likely find a statistical "spike" in deaths for one or two of them compared with the population at large. That's simply the nature of random data.
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Post by SpitfireIX on Jun 18, 2006 10:03:04 GMT -4
By the way, Dead Hoosiers, for obvious reasons, I'm very curious about the significance of your nick. Note for those who don't know: "Hoosier" is a nickname of indeterminate origin for residents of the US state of Indiana.
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Post by Dead Hoosiers on Jun 18, 2006 14:34:25 GMT -4
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Post by lenbrazil on Jun 18, 2006 19:19:54 GMT -4
Accord to the World Fact Book the Death Rate in the US is 8.25 deaths per 1000 [ education.yahoo.com/reference/factbook/us/popula.html ] or one in 121 people will die in any gives year. In the UK the rate is even higher 10.18 per 1000 [ education.yahoo.com/reference/factbook/uk/popula.html - 1 in 98 people]. I imagine the total number of scientists in the US and UK measures in the hundreds of thousands so we can safely assume that thousands of scientists die every year in those countries, a certain percentage of these will be violent causes. According to the WHO 7% deaths in developed countries are due to “intentional and unintentional injuries” [ www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00001589.htm ], I suspect, but don’t have the patience to do the research, that scientists would have a lower rate than the general populace but the US would have a higher rate than other developed countries in any case probably over 100 scientists in American and Britain die due to accidents, murder and suicide every year. Dornheim drove his car off a cliff just after having diner with friends. According to the story there were no signs of him braking, he was not on the road he told his friends he would take. The first question that popped into my mind was, ‘what was his blood alcohol level?’
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