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Post by Obviousman on Sept 24, 2005 19:27:58 GMT -4
Eastern states, Channel 7 (or at least Prime) 1230 today, Sunday 25 SEP 05:
SPECIAL: BEYOND THE BERMUDA TRIANGLE - THE DEVIL'S SEA Why is the sea off the south coast of Japan so extraordinarily deadly? Why have so many ships, submarines and planes met their doom here? Could this stretch of water be the Bermuda triangle of the Pacific? Unearthing human accounts of survival and doom, we investigate unexplained disasters, and attempt to separate fantasy from fact.
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Post by PeterB on Sept 25, 2005 20:43:40 GMT -4
I'd like to know the statistics of where ships disappear across all the world's oceans. Some place on Earth is going to have a higher rate of disappearances than anywhere else, but this can be explained purely by statistics.
In any case, from reading my great-grandfather's memoirs, I can understand how little it can take to make a ship disappear in minutes. Late in the 19th century, he was the master of a sailing ship sailing somewhere near the Cape of Good Hope. He was caught unaware by a sudden wind change and squall which was so strong it blew the ship over on to its beam ends - that is, the masts were parallel with the surface of the ocean. The ship took on so much water that it would have sunk within minutes, with little chance to launch any boats. But then the wind again suddenly changed durection, and blew the ship back upright. He reflected afterwards on how many ships might not have experienced the fortuitous change of wind direction, and been lost without trace.
My personal interest in this story is that his wife and kids were also on that ship, and one of those kids was my grandmother...
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Post by Obviousman on Sept 28, 2005 6:10:50 GMT -4
The programme was pretty rank. Lots of 'woo-woo' and 'is this what happened?' stuff.
Even after they proved that a numer of the claims were wrong (e.g. a ship that 'disappeared' was actually found sunk), they continued on with the 'Devils Triangle' business.
Oh well!
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Post by skinbath on Sept 28, 2005 9:57:28 GMT -4
I watched a documentary about the disappearance of ships etc within the Bermuda triangle.....a geologist surmised and gave evidence for (via lab trials) "seaslides" and sea-bed gaseous escapes which caused the surface of the sea to become unstable via the gas bubbles rising to the surface,(this would also account for the "boiling" aspect often described).He also ascertained that there was evidence that these underwater landslides were in the vicinity relating to the disappearance of documented last known positions.....not the "Devils sea" I know but it seems to me that the above was adequately dealt with as a probability...
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Post by triangleman on Sept 28, 2005 11:08:17 GMT -4
Here is a BAUT thread discussing the "Bermuda Triangle gas" theories. It comes up occasionnally at BABB/BAUT. In general there is no evidence that an unusual number of ships/planes go missing in the area in the first place, so there is no Bermuda Triangle mystery to solve. All cruise ships going from NY/Philly/Boston to the Carribean pass right through the Triangle as does most ship/plane traffic from Miami to Europe. Most of the Bahamas are right in the Triangle (as opposed to Bermuda which is just a point of the Triangle and not acually in it) so if ships were disappearing all the time you'd think they'd be concerned.
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Post by skinbath on Sept 28, 2005 14:31:09 GMT -4
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