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Post by sts60 on Oct 24, 2005 10:58:36 GMT -4
The thing is that it doesn't take an advanced degree to see through most conspiracy "theories", even the ones that make specific technical claims. It takes common sense and an appreciation for the way things work in the real world. Application of those demolishes the bulk of PCT claims, even without informing oneself on the more technical topics, or having experience in demolition or the military or various civil agencies.
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Post by JayUtah on Oct 24, 2005 12:10:21 GMT -4
Gah! I look at the thread and feel distinctly outclassed.
Don't; I enjoy your posts and I think they're well considered.
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Post by PeterB on Oct 24, 2005 19:35:45 GMT -4
Jay said:
Help, help! I'm being patronised by an engineer!
;-)
Seriously, thanks for that. I like to think I've learned a bit of technical knowledge, but I'm far from confident to stick my neck out on such topics.
It reminds me of a thread I started on the old BABB forum about an art critic in Britain who was convinced that Renaissance artists used a form of tracing to create their paintings. My point at the time was to compare the way the art critic presented his controversial theory to the way Moon Hoax proponents present *their* theories. I didn't know much about the topic (of Renaissance art) but I found his arguments convincing - largely because he presented a lot of evidence. Of course, without the technical knowledge, I didn't know how reliable his evidence was...
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Post by Obviousman on Oct 25, 2005 6:30:43 GMT -4
Don't worry Pete - I feel outclassed as well.
High school. 20+ years in aviation, as pilot / navigator / air traffic controller. Naval Officer. Buff on US manned space programme.
That is all.
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Post by sts60 on Oct 25, 2005 9:16:09 GMT -4
No, no, no. It's the breadth of the experience, as well as depth in your field, that makes this such a great forum. What good would this place be if everybody's experience was just aerospace engineering?
Your background, for example, is eminently suited for addressing key aspects of both the Apollo and 9/11 conspiracy claims. We have people who are civil engineers, theater technicians, photographers, economists, chemists, etc., and just plain smart and interested. It all comes in handy for addressing conspiracy claims.
Really, this site is a valuable resource.
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Bob the Excel Guru?
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Post by Bob B. on Oct 25, 2005 10:12:21 GMT -4
I agree with sts60, the diversity of backgrounds here is a big plus. There is more to combating these conspiracy theories than just technical knowledge. One doesn't need to be an engineer and scientist to know, for instance, the history of the Apollo program. Knowing some important historical detail is just as important as knowing how, say, the Apollo docking mechanism worked.
What we have here, for the most part, are intelligent and inquisitive people who are willing to share what they know and learn from others. We all sometimes make mistakes, but we are corrected, we learn, and we are better for it. Collectively we have a great forum here.
The one background I've never seen here is a geologist. If we can get one of those on board will have most of the bases covered.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Oct 25, 2005 10:15:15 GMT -4
I agree. I'm facinated by the Rocket stuff that Jay and sts and Bob do, but I've yet to see them go after any of the chemistry stuff, an area that I know extremely well. So when it comes to what goes into a bomb and what should be located afterwards, that's more my area and when someone tells me that an explosive that only contains Nitrogen, Carbon, Oxygen and Hydrogren atoms would leave Sulphur residues, I'm gunna laugh at them.
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DAMN! That woulda gone in the hole IF....
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Post by golfhobo on Nov 14, 2005 13:16:59 GMT -4
Well, like others, I feel outclassed and almost hate to give my CV (as Fetzer likes to call it.) My college expectations were interrupted by my choice to join the U.S.A.F with the intention of letting them pay me to finish it and become an officer. They, of course, failed to follow through and I chose a career in Intelligence instead. Although very good at my job, most of what I knew has since been superceded.
I went back to college 3 times after getting out of the service. Computers, Industrial Technology & Electronic Engineering. I never finished any of them. (I have A.D.D.)
As of this posting, I have just recently finished Driving School and got my CDL-A. I'm now just a Truck Driver (as many here seem to be,) but that is good. As I understand it.... that now makes me an expert on EVERYTHING!!!
I HAVE travelled and lived extensively throughout the U.S., so I could be considered somewhat of an expert on geography and American Tribalism. Also (for what it's worth,) I am well versed in Electro-Photostatic Imaging Technology. i.e: Copiers and Laser Printers.
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Post by jaydeehess on Nov 15, 2005 13:35:52 GMT -4
I completed first year B.Sc. physics and part of second year then quit and went to college and completed a diploma course in electronics. I am a science and tech geek with suvscriptions to two popular press science magazines (Discover and Technology Review) and I pick up a Scientific American once in a while. I have worked for Transport Canada in the communications and Nav-aids section (though it also had me assisting the radar techs as well) which took me to the high Arctic twice. I worked for apublic broadcaster , TV Ontario until gov't cutbacks had me downsized. I owned and operated my own independant hardware store for 5 years until recession and big box stores ran me to ground. I now work for a small cable TV company that has a dozen systems and also owns a CTV affiliate TV station and also does a lot of cable access productions such as local football and hockey games. I work in all of those areas and am also the guy that gets called for other jobs such as set construction and headend design.
My biggest regret is not completeing my B.Sc. If I won the lottery I would like to go back to university and take journalism and then write science articles as a freelancer.
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Post by laguna on Nov 16, 2005 5:10:06 GMT -4
Studied Information and Communication Technology at the Giessen University for Applied Sciences. Working as a Consultant for Information and Communication Infrastructure.
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Post by colinr on Nov 16, 2005 8:14:17 GMT -4
Well I've got a degree in Business Management Studies, and something like 20+ years in IT support , mostly Desktop, some server and WAN management - apart from the BA , I've also got an MCP qualification, so if you need XP re-installed I'm your man!
Other than that I've a life long interest in the space program - having been born 4 days after Explorer 1 was launched , and being 11 when Apollo 11 touched down.
I'm fascinated by the depth of expertise shown here by Jay and others , to be able to say I worked on something that's now in space - simply amazing .. I envy you your abilities, me - well it took 3 goes for me to scrape a pass in basic maths sufficient to be accepted into my Business Course - I still get cold sweats thinking about the first time I saw differential equations ... took my most of a term to be able to solve them sufficiently well to pass the course!
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Post by jaydeehess on Nov 16, 2005 13:09:42 GMT -4
I too had a keen interest in the space program. I had a scrapbook full of newspaper and magazine clippings. However once those hormones kicked in I seem to have found a new set of priorities. ;D I always did well in math and science classes throughout school, it just always made sense to me.
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Post by AstroSmurf on Dec 5, 2005 13:03:16 GMT -4
I've got the better part of a MSc in Engineering Physics, plus about 10 years in computer programming and software design. And, I'm slightly mad about space and history.
I intend to complete the MSc in the near future - I've been focusing on other areas, but it's getting to be high time I closed that part of my life.
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Post by petereldergill on Dec 6, 2005 13:21:38 GMT -4
I've a BSc and MSc in mathematics (graph theory). I'm a high school math teacher and have taught some physics but mostly math. I've learned a ton from here and BAUT. I took a couple of astronomy courses in university, but nothing too strenuous. Learned a bit of cosmology and lots of stellar evolution, etc...
Later
Pete
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Post by Mr Gorsky on Dec 10, 2005 21:10:23 GMT -4
I have no tech background whatsoever. Flew through Physics and the rest at O Level, but flunked A Level Chemistry (should have taken Physics instead, I realised too late).
Since then worked solely in Financial Services, and qualified as both a Financial Adviser and Pension Specialist. I also recently qualified as a Microsoft Certified Professional.
The only reason I am here is because I have been fascinated by space travel since I was very VERY small, and every time I come here I learn something new - especially when you more knowledgeable types are banging your heads against the wall with a deeply committed HB.
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