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Post by lionking on Jul 11, 2006 3:59:46 GMT -4
there is nothing I can do for you. You ppl are tooo innocent. I really envy you. You think that everybody is doing their own job pretty well, that this word is so ideal. They would do for the same reasons the Israelis bombed their own King David Hotel to blame the Palestinians.
the rest should have been interrogated, at least if you read the link about his family and brothers, it seems they still supported him secretly.
can you provide links please. yes it was the firstplane.
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Post by lionking on Jul 11, 2006 5:02:15 GMT -4
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Post by Jason on Jul 11, 2006 11:15:52 GMT -4
If I am too innocent lionking then you are at the same time a mixture of too cynical and too gullible. Too cynical in your readiness to believe the jews and the American government capable of any nefarious act and too gullible in your ability to believe in the most unbelievable of scenarios so long as its the jews or the American government who are described as the perpetrators.
When conspiracists speak of "the FBI" or "NASA" or "the jews" they tend to forget that these are groups of individuals. The larger the group the more individuals, each with their own agendas and ideals, are involved. It's not possible to paint them all with the same brush. Why do individuals join the FBI? I would think that the majority of them chose law enforcement because they like to protect people. Lying about the deaths of thousands of innocent Americans is antithetical to that motivation. Why do people join NASA? Because they want to be on the cutting edge of the space sciences. Lying about their findings or hoaxing a moon landing is exactly the opposite of everything they joined for in the first place. Why are people jewish? Well, they don't really have much choice on this one, but the jews are a more diverse group than the FBI or NASA. Ascribing any characteristic to even "the Israelis" as a whole is an exercise in futility.
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Post by lionking on Jul 11, 2006 12:18:45 GMT -4
Jason you still surprise me with your innocence. Of course not all NASA , jews, Israelis, and FBI are involved in notorious acts. I havenever said this and never will say this. It is people in power who are doing all these acts. I watched jewish Rabbis speaking against Israel. I can't forget the words of the Rabbi: there are jews who fear God and don't agree on the acts done by the state of Israel. I am sure if I search the net I'll find lots of such people, lots of FBI's also not agreeing on things done by the US gov. But what shall we do? there are always people from every nation that are ready to be conspirators and gain money for different reasons.
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Post by echnaton on Jul 11, 2006 13:32:44 GMT -4
there are always people from every nation that are ready to be conspirators and gain money for different reasons.
Would this have anything to do with the current actions of Hamass?
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Post by lionking on Jul 11, 2006 16:33:16 GMT -4
it apllies to everyone, but from whom would Hamas gain money?
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jul 11, 2006 18:25:41 GMT -4
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Post by lionking on Jul 12, 2006 5:10:53 GMT -4
Gedeon Naudet
is he a jew
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jul 12, 2006 6:30:17 GMT -4
About all I can tell you is that Jules was born April 26, 1973 and Gédéon was born March 27, 1970, both in Paris, and that they moved to New York to attend the Academy of Film becoming US residents in 1989.
The surname definately is French, coming from the Champagne reigon, so the likelihood of them being a Jew is extremely low. From a guess, I'd suspect that they are probably Roman Catholic since most of France is (90%) and only 1% of the population is Jewish.
Something I do find funny is that some 9/11 CT's claim it is suspicious that Jules got the shot while at the same time others are saying that it is supicious that no-one filmed the Pentagon impact. Some CT's say that what the film shows is proof of the Govt lying about 9/11, of course others claim that it's government disinformation. Half of them think it's real and evidence for a conspriacy, the other half think it was faked. But then about the only thing the 9/11 crowd do agree on is that the US Govt did it. They don't know how, they don't know why, they don't know what with or how to prove it, but they "know" who did it. roflmao.
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Post by Jason on Jul 12, 2006 11:27:26 GMT -4
I don't think it's funny - I think it's sad. When a person's first question about someone they want to determine the credibility of is "is he a jew?" I can't help but feel sad.
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Post by lionking on Jul 12, 2006 11:54:51 GMT -4
Jason if he were jew, the possibility is more that he is working for the Mossad. Even if he is not a jew, he might still work for them. Arabs for God's sake work for them. The question was just to find certain links, not to discredit jews as a whole.
phantom his name seems jew
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Post by Jason on Jul 12, 2006 13:14:44 GMT -4
Dress up your pig however you like lionking - it's still a pig.
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Post by lionking on Jul 12, 2006 13:24:30 GMT -4
don't get block-minded Jason, please. You are more open-minded than that. You are not a kid to take things so narrowly. You are an adult and you know that people have affiliations to others of their like. I am not saying it is hundred percent that he is a Mossad agent if he is jew, but this for obvious reasons, increase the possibility.
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Post by jaydeehess on Jul 12, 2006 13:28:50 GMT -4
This is really starting to sound as if any record or any evidence that does not support your view must have been, or at least must be suspected as having been, manufactured by Mossad, and that the first step in determining such is to examine the people involved for the possibility that they are Jewish.
That strikes me as particularily paranoid and certainly pre-judgemental.
Given that the Naudet video of the first plane was on TV by Sept 12/01 (perhaps even the evening of Sept 11) and that all other aspects in the video correspond to actual events(the suspected gas leak, the path of the aircraft etc.) if this was faked it would have to be very , very good and done very , very quickly. It could not be done ahead of the attacks with the garuntee that the position and path of the aircraft would be correct.
But what of the motive in producing such a fake? Certainly having no video of this would be preferable if in fact there is something to hide about the impact. No other video of this has been found and given the speed of the plane and the time of day this is not surprising in the least.
In fact producing a fake video of the plane impacting the tower (assuming there is something to hide about this event) simply creates another avenue by which others might discover that there was a cover-up of whatever there is to hide about this event.
That you would automatically suspect Mossad involvement in creating this video illustrates your complete unwillingness to look at evidence objectively. It illustrates that you are on a Jew-hunt, not a search for truth.
GWB has been attributed with calling for any way to pin 9/11 on Saddam Hussien. You sir, are no better in your search for Jewish conspirators under every bed!
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Post by twinstead on Jul 12, 2006 13:38:15 GMT -4
You sir, are no better in your search for Jewish conspirators under every bed!
LOL. Ya think?
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