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Post by Bill Thompson on Aug 15, 2006 13:49:06 GMT -4
The Klingons did it.
First of all, Klingons are real and Gene Roddenberry was an ex-government spy trying to warn us about them.
Secondly, their cloaking device is the best explanation for the visual anomalies noted.
Thirdly, only Klingon metals could have sliced through the WTC walls like those ships did.
It is also well known that Klingons use Thermate,
The Klingons clearly funded the "Loose Change" movie to divert attention from them since this is a typical Klingon ploy.
I am still working on this. But if anyone wants to chime in, we could all get together and write a run-away best seller.
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Post by Jason on Aug 15, 2006 14:33:05 GMT -4
Ah, but the Klingons wouldn't have the cloaking device if the Romulans hadn't given it to them. So who's really behind it, the Klingons or the Romulans?
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Post by Al Johnston on Aug 15, 2006 15:21:14 GMT -4
Also, attacking an undefended civilian target offends against the central Klingon concept of Honour. It was more likely to be the Ferengi: they'd do anything for cash.
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Post by Bill Thompson on Aug 15, 2006 16:53:30 GMT -4
Who were those really evil guys introduced in Deep Space Nine with the loads of ridges on their faces and heads? They were also on The Next Generation and one episode they tortured Captain Picard to the point of hallucination. Maybe they would have it in them to do 911.
Associating islamic extremists with evil aliens must be insulting to evil aliens.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Aug 15, 2006 16:56:03 GMT -4
Cardasians
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Post by Jason on Aug 16, 2006 11:29:17 GMT -4
A new book is coming out "Debunking 9/11 Myths: Why Conspiracy Theories Can't Stand Up To The Facts" which is an expansion of the debunking article Popular Mechanics ran last year. It includes debunkings of things like the molten steel myths and includes a basic overview of conspiracist techniques.
It might be worth a look.
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Post by Bill Thompson on Aug 16, 2006 13:35:26 GMT -4
Thanks for the tip, Jason.
Any idea who is putting it together and when it might come out? Do you have any weblinks to share about this?
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Post by Jason on Aug 16, 2006 13:40:51 GMT -4
It's on Amazon now, listed as having released on the 15th of this month. It's "by The Editors of Popular Mechanics, John McCain, David Dunbar, and Brad Reagan."
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Post by Al Johnston on Aug 16, 2006 14:59:27 GMT -4
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Post by Bill Thompson on Aug 16, 2006 15:13:10 GMT -4
Thank you.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Aug 16, 2006 16:40:35 GMT -4
Is it my imagination or, after reading the first review, which seems to have nothing about the book but is just a tirade, do the 911 CT's just get more and more outrageous and add more and more things into their claims to the point where the just look dumb for even believing it?
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Post by Jason on Aug 16, 2006 18:20:50 GMT -4
You mean you didn't think they looked dumb before they added more claims?
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Post by PhantomWolf on Aug 16, 2006 19:50:29 GMT -4
You mean you didn't think they looked dumb before they added more claims?It's a moving scale of dumb. Just when you think it couldn't move further it does. Let's see now the Towers collapse at free fall speed (including WTC 7, which wasn't hit by a plane)Repeatedly Debunked due to visual evidence. airplane parts and titanium engines turn to liquidUntrue, and shown to be by the recovery of aircraft engine parts. the Secret Service deviate from standard operating procedure and allows Bush to continue to read a goat story to children for another 10 minutesAgain shown to be untrue. There was no immediate threat to or attack on the President and so no need to remove him from the environment. As such Bush dictated the procedures, not the Secret Service. FAA and NORAD forget standard operating procedures for the interception of errant aircraftAgain shown to be untrue. The FAA had little in the way of standard procedure for contacting the military over Hijacking and this showed in the resulting confusion. There was no SOP for intercepting hijacked planes, and the pilots did follow SOP for interceptions leading them to head in the wrong direction because they were headed to a staging area for an off shore intercept. firefighters,tenants/workers at the WTC said bombs were going off in the buildings even before and after flights 11 and 175 impacted the TowersNo they said they heard sounds that they thought were explosions. Quite different. FBI HQ (special agent David Frasca and subordinates) fails to return 70 calls to its field office in Minneapolis concerning a Al-Qaeda operative learning to fly planes there (but not wanting to learn how to land the plane)All of the hijack pilots learned to land, it is false that no one them wanted to learn how too. Several weren't that good at it to start with but all gained commercial pilot's licenses. There were not 70 phone calls; there was one memo, which may have been received after Sept. 11, and it didn't concern an Al Quaeda operative, it discussed the possibility that further suspects (beyond Moussaoui) might be active in the nation's flight schools (thus not even narrowing it down to specific schools.) At the time Moussaoui was being held for imigration vialations, not terrorist connections. the Pentagon's five-battery air defense system on the roof (including one mobile system) fails to activateJust blatantly untrue as the Pentagon had no missile defence system and is only about 1000m from the end of a major airport's main runway. the area struck at the Pentagon was where the newly hired accountants were trying to locate the 'missing' $2.3 trillion that Secretary Rumsfeld told Congress on September 7, 2001 was lost!Blatantly false again. Though a number of Accountants and Budget Advisers where killed, they were associated with the Resource Services in Office of the Administrative Assistant to the Secretary of the Army and were working on the Army's 2002 Budget. From these allegations, only one actually holds even a drop of truth, and that one relies on people being able to tell the difference between an explosion and another high-energy sound such as a steel member snapping, something even experts have troubles with and is countered by other evidence (such as seismic data and demolisions experts who were nearby stating they never heard any charges being set off.)
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Post by twinstead on Aug 16, 2006 21:48:13 GMT -4
It is SO frustrating that these debunked 'reasons' it was an inside job are used over and over and over and over again. It's shades of "the moon landings were hoaxed! How can the flag waive on the moon?!?" all over again....
You'd think CTs would keep up on things like that.
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Post by Data Cable on Aug 16, 2006 22:11:50 GMT -4
You'd think CTs would keep up on things like that. ...and run the risk of actualy dealing with facts?
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