US, UK, Covert and False Flag Ops

[twinstead]

stutefish said:

Given the context in which it is asked (this board and its recent thread topics), it also strikes me as simplistic and loaded. I would very much like to know 3onthetree's reasoning behind formulating the question the way he did, what information he expects to gain from the responses, and what interpretation he puts on that information.

Given 2onthetree's post history, IMO it's a loaded question meant to prove some ideological point.

[Jason]

Like I said, it's a trick question.

[gillianren]

I'll also note that I'm showing that no one has voted in the poll. I think we're all too clever for whatever trap we're being set up for.

[3onthetree]

Finally, I consider the poll question to be too absolutist, too ambiguous, and too poorly-worded overall, to be worth answering as is. Given the context in which it is asked (this board and its recent thread topics), it also strikes me as simplistic and loaded. I would very much like to know 3onthetree's reasoning behind formulating the question the way he did, what information he expects to gain from the responses, and what interpretation he puts on that information.

Yes it was a simple question with only one obvious honest answer, Real.
The inability of the local apollogists to move their little mouses over the real icon gave me the information I needed. ;D The MSM including the BBC have always played a role in empire.

[Jason]

So should I start a poll with the question "Have you stopped beating your wife?" and only "Yes" or "No" as answers?

[gillianren]

3onthetree said:

The MSM including the BBC have always played a role in empire.

Really? Are you sure?

[3onthetree]

jason said:

So should I start a poll with the question "Have you stopped beating your wife?" and only "Yes" or "No" as answers?

You can, If it's relevant to basketball I'd answer no as I can't get near her on a basketball court.

[3onthetree]

gillianren said:

3onthetree said:

The MSM including the BBC have always played a role in empire.

Really? Are you sure?

Positive, I even posted evidence from one operation. Just think of what will be discovered when Big Wedding is declassified.

[PhantomWolf]

Positive, I even posted evidence from one operation. Just think of what will be discovered when Big Wedding is declassified.

So the BBC was in on it with the British Government when they ploted to attack the oil rich countries to insure their oil supplies during WW1?

[Apollo Gnomon]

Interesting poll.

Nope, not gonna vote.

I know that there are governments the CIA has kicked over, but I don't know the role of the BBC (or any other media entity) in those actions.

But I do know how journalism works. "They" (and there's always some kind of amorphous "they" with CT's) aren't gonna lie outright to their readers/viewers/listenters. But they can be fed a hog-trough full of bull droppings in the form of press releases, and they will frequently buy into properly presented nonsense unquestioningly long enough to get it into print.

Remember the cold fusion thing? No peer reviews, nope, let's just hold a press conference!

The media generally doesn't assume the government is lying outright to them, so they go along with stuff.

But I don't expect you to understand how journalism works any better than the other CT's have understood any thing else around here.

In fact, it seems that the "skeptics" all have in common a vast lack of knowledge or experience.

But lots of links.

[gillianren]

phantomwolf said:

Positive, I even posted evidence from one operation. Just think of what will be discovered when Big Wedding is declassified.

So the BBC was in on it with the British Government when they ploted to attack the oil rich countries to insure their oil supplies during WW1?

Yeah, not to mention, you know, the Colonies, the British Raj, and of course the Roman Empire! "Always"? Ye Gods. And they wonder why we don't take them seriously.

[3onthetree]

gnomon said:

Interesting poll.

Nope, not gonna vote.

I know that there are governments the CIA has kicked over, but I don't know the role of the BBC (or any other media entity) in those actions.

But I do know how journalism works. "They" (and there's always some kind of amorphous "they" with CT's) aren't gonna lie outright to their readers/viewers/listenters. But they can be fed a hog-trough full of bull droppings in the form of press releases, and they will frequently buy into properly presented nonsense unquestioningly long enough to get it into print.

Remember the cold fusion thing? No peer reviews, nope, let's just hold a press conference!

The media generally doesn't assume the government is lying outright to them, so they go along with stuff.

But I don't expect you to understand how journalism works any better than the other CT's have understood any thing else around here.

In fact, it seems that the "skeptics" all have in common a vast lack of knowledge or experience.

But lots of links.

I think you need to Google up yellow journalism, it might give you a better understanding of how some journalists work.
This particular brand of reporting was rampant after 911 and is still bopping along.
Some news outlets do a great job though, I reckon I could tell you what colour Anna Nichols toenails were painted when she died so much of this crap has been reported ,why? No disrespect to the departed but who gives a flying ****.

Back to Auntie. The point here is that the actual code words, exactly midnight were broadcast by the BBC for the Shah to inform his highness that the coup was a go. In the lead up to the coup the BBC had been used every yellow tactic available to the point where real BBC journo's went on strike.

[stutefish]

I get it, now.

The poll and its attendant question are confusingly presented.

The thread topic: "US, UK, Covert and False Flag Ops" is also the subject of the poll.

The poll choices, "Real" and "Nonsense", refer to the thread topic.

3onthetree's opening question, about using media outlets, "namely, the BBC", as propaganda or counterintelligence dissemination channels (either wittingly or un-) can actually be ignored for the purposes of answering the poll.

As I hope I've already made clear, it's my opinion that some alleged "US, UK, Covert and False Flag Ops" are "Real", and that others are "Nonsense". It's a shame that the poll choices didn't include this option.

3onthetree, have you considered the possibility that nobody answered your poll because they don't trust you to deal fairly with them in the administration or interpretation of the poll? Have you considered the possibility that nobody answered your poll because they felt it was badly or confusingly worded, and weren't comfortable answering an unclear question? Have you considered the possibility that nobody answered your poll because their honest answer wasn't an option?

You've seen my give my honest answer here. What do you make of it?

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[3onthetree]

stutefish said:

I get it, now.

The poll and its attendant question are confusingly presented.

The thread topic: "US, UK, Covert and False Flag Ops" is also the subject of the poll.

The poll choices, "Real" and "Nonsense", refer to the thread topic.

3onthetree's opening question, about using media outlets, "namely, the BBC", as propaganda or counterintelligence dissemination channels (either wittingly or un-) can actually be ignored for the purposes of answering the poll.

As I hope I've already made clear, it's my opinion that some alleged "US, UK, Covert and False Flag Ops" are "Real", and that others are "Nonsense". It's a shame that the poll choices didn't include this option.

3onthetree, have you considered the possibility that nobody answered your poll because they don't trust you to deal fairly with them in the administration or interpretation of the poll? Have you considered the possibility that nobody answered your poll because they felt it was badly or confusingly worded, and weren't comfortable answering an unclear question? Have you considered the possibility that nobody answered your poll because their honest answer wasn't an option?

You've seen my give my honest answer here. What do you make of it?

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That's OK, I thought it could have been answered true when you consider WW2. I think the recent events with the BBC might have made the locals wary.

[stutefish]

Wary of what?