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Post by altair4 on Mar 9, 2008 19:54:05 GMT -4
Don't despair the antichrist is here!!(Ha!Ha!ha!,evil laugh)
actually thats not funny
seriously this worries me...goto
http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com:rothschild_the_israeli_supreme.html
it will come up with:rothchild The supreme court and the New World Order The Isreali NWO tips.Masonic Order designs Symbology in Israeli Supreme Court Building
this worries me...notice the Triangle with "All seeing Eye" and the Obelisk (like the Washington Monument which is 555 ft high and 111 feet underground....(666)
NOVOS ORDO SECLORUM!!
not good,not good
and no I am not a "born again christian" but I KNOW God Exist
God is a Soul Being and is in "YOU" (astral body) and can make himself known "small inner voice" its called "The Voice Of The Silence" also in dreams, so called "coincidences"...this sort of thing is on different levels
I goto the Yoga centre and meditate
God DOES exist and the athiest are GOING to find out!
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Post by LunarOrbit on Mar 9, 2008 20:02:58 GMT -4
Actually, the Washington Monument only has a foundation that is 36ft deep, bringing the overall height of the obelisk to 591ft.
That is the only part of your post that I thought was worthy of comment.
Edited to add: Upon further reading, I think the 555ft height includes the 36ft foundation.
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Post by JayUtah on Mar 9, 2008 22:06:43 GMT -4
notice the Triangle with "All seeing Eye"...
...a universal symbol used in many contexts, including Christianity.
...and the Obelisk...
...again, a widespread symbol and architectural feature appearing in many contexts, including Christianity.
NOVOS ORDO SECLORUM!!
A "new order of the ages" does not necessarily mean the New World Order of the conspiracy theorists. Just because you have co-opted the phrase to apply to your delusions doesn't mean previous uses of it mean what you have come to convey by it.
The line is a quote from Virgil, predating the United States and Freemasons by quite some time. In that the borrowers of that quotation were beginning a new country based on a form of government not then widely practiced, and ending nearly two centuries of British colonialism, it seems very appropriate.
I goto the Yoga centre and meditate
I have nothing against Yoga, but you should go to the library and read instead.
Much of what is attributed to the Freemasons by those trying to pin some conspiracy on them was actually borrowed by the Masons from more general sources. There is no documented use, for example, of the all-seeing eye in Freemasonry until after its adoption in the U.S. seal. And its references in Christian symbology long pre-date that.
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Post by Jason on Mar 10, 2008 11:24:33 GMT -4
$0.40
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Post by BertL on Mar 10, 2008 12:12:21 GMT -4
and no I am not a "born again christian" but I KNOW God Exist God is a Soul Being and is in "YOU" (astral body) and can make himself known "small inner voice" its called "The Voice Of The Silence" also in dreams, so called "coincidences"...this sort of thing is on different levels I goto the Yoga centre and meditate God DOES exist and the athiest are GOING to find out! Just what if, hypothetically, I KNOW God does not exist?
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Post by Jason on Mar 10, 2008 14:49:10 GMT -4
No one can KNOW that God doesn't exist, even hypothetically. To know that God doesn't exist you would have to be aware of everything in the universe through all history. In other words, you would have to be God yourself.
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Post by wdmundt on Mar 10, 2008 15:10:05 GMT -4
Conversely, no one can KNOW that god exists. As a human, you are incapable of distinguishing the acts of a deity from acts of random chance and you can then only hope that your belief is correct.
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Post by Jason on Mar 10, 2008 15:35:28 GMT -4
I disagree. It is entirely possibly for God to prove to you beyond a shadow of doubt that He exists. However, I would say that very few human beings have had this first-hand knowledge throughout history. The vast majority of us have some degree of uncertainty and must act on faith rather than sure knowledge.
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Post by wdmundt on Mar 10, 2008 15:54:45 GMT -4
I disagree. It is entirely possibly for God to prove to you beyond a shadow of doubt that He exists. Can you prove that? It sounds like an unsupported claim to me. So you have to choose to believe.
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Post by LunarOrbit on Mar 10, 2008 16:09:10 GMT -4
It is entirely possibly for God to prove to you beyond a shadow of doubt that He exists. He just chooses not to... that would be too easy. He also wouldn't be able to punish us for not believing if he made it obvious that he does, and where is the fun in that?
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Post by Jason on Mar 10, 2008 16:15:20 GMT -4
I disagree. It is entirely possibly for God to prove to you beyond a shadow of doubt that He exists. Can you prove that? It sounds like an unsupported claim to me. While it's logically impossible to prove a negative it is not impossible to prove a positive. It's impossible to prove that there are not nor have ever been any black swans - all you can do is prove that you have never encountered one, or that because you have searched rather thoroughly for black swans that their existence is unlikely. But the moment you discover an authentic black swan then you have proved that at least one does exist. If God exists then He can prove it. If God doesn't exist then there is no way we can ever prove it without becoming gods ourselves. Unless you're one of those people who have met Him face-to-face, in which case you no longer would have a choice. No, I am not one of those people, but I have encountered evidence sufficient to convince me of His existence beyond a reasonable doubt. Yes, I could be said to be chosing to believe in God, in much the same way many people chose to believe the germ theory of disease, or that the Earth is round.
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Post by Jason on Mar 10, 2008 16:21:40 GMT -4
It is entirely possibly for God to prove to you beyond a shadow of doubt that He exists. He just chooses not to... that would be too easy. He also wouldn't be able to punish us for not believing if he made it obvious that he does, and where is the fun in that? Yes, actually it would be too easy. Having absolute knowledge of God's existence would defeat one of the primary purposes of coming to Earth in the first place for most people. And God does not punish anyone for merely not believing in Him.
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Post by LunarOrbit on Mar 10, 2008 16:26:14 GMT -4
So atheists go to heaven then?
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Post by pzkpfw on Mar 10, 2008 16:29:57 GMT -4
You are all missing the main point:
The Devil uses Imperial.
If America switches to Metric the end of the world will be avoided.
After all, a monument that is 203 metres tall can't be evil, right?
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Post by Jason on Mar 10, 2008 16:30:51 GMT -4
So atheists go to heaven then? I'm sure some have. For those atheists who lived a truly righteous life and then were humble enough to admit they were wrong when confronted by the evidence after their deaths, their unbelief here is no barrier to their ultimate status.
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