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Post by Bill Thompson on Feb 6, 2007 15:08:53 GMT -4
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Post by Bill Thompson on Feb 6, 2007 15:28:56 GMT -4
"The Wrong Stuff" or "What Stays in Micro Gravity Stays in Micro Gravity"
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Post by echnaton on Feb 6, 2007 15:57:48 GMT -4
It is quite sad, particularly for her children, but serves as an example that none of us are beyond rash behavior under special circumstances. The comparison of the mug shot with her official photo is striking. It is as if she had lost everything, which is likely what she feared if she lost Commander Oefeleinr to the other woman. The isolation she must have felt that drove her actions must have been terrible, but so is attempted murder.
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Post by echnaton on Feb 6, 2007 16:47:23 GMT -4
It seems she will formally charged with attempted murder in about 15 minutes. Houston radio station KTRH is going to podcast the hearing live. The recording will probably be kept for replay too.
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Post by Bill Thompson on Feb 6, 2007 17:23:55 GMT -4
I think an alien switched bodies with her back in July when she went up in space last time. It is just like the movie Species.
You people really should watch more movies.
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Post by Bill Thompson on Feb 6, 2007 19:50:47 GMT -4
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Post by echnaton on Feb 6, 2007 19:55:39 GMT -4
No update on that bio for her new rap sheet.
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Post by Bill Thompson on Feb 6, 2007 21:37:53 GMT -4
Bets on how much longer her NASA bio stays up? Screenshot it while you can, and enjoy her "rubber stamping, african violets and stalking" hobbies. www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/nowak.htmlJust wait until the HB's say she was set up because of her inside knowledge of the Moon Hoax. Or how about the Neocons set her up to convince people that even the most educated women cannot be trusted (to run the country) By the way, did you notice "skeet" ( www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/nowak.html ) I wonder what is really going on here. How did she get to be an astronaut. Does this mean we have really no clue about psychology? Or does this mean we are lowering our standards? Or does this mean NASA has a quota for female astronauts (I don't mean to brag, but my Navy Awards are more impressive than hers).
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Post by Bill Thompson on Feb 6, 2007 23:07:05 GMT -4
Got an important meeting to rush to and you don't want to be concered about loosing time stopping along the way?Think Depends!Yes, Depends is not just for Incontinence Anymore As used by NASA astronaut Lisa M. Nowak (CAPTAIN, USN)
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Post by gillianren on Feb 7, 2007 2:32:46 GMT -4
Our knowledge of psychology is more limited than we'd like to admit. However, I like to think most people are above being insulting to people who have clearly suffered a psychotic break.
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Post by Al Johnston on Feb 7, 2007 7:07:39 GMT -4
I am suprised we are not discussing this in "Beyond Belief" Sadly, between 15,000 and 20,000 people are shot dead in the USA every year. This event is many things, but one of the more sad and tragic aspects is that it is in no way "beyond belief".
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Post by gwen on Feb 7, 2007 9:47:47 GMT -4
It's already bringing questions as to the relative reliability of people on long space missions, like to Mars.
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Post by Bill Thompson on Feb 7, 2007 10:28:56 GMT -4
All these comments of concern should be directed to the men and women in the Navy whom could of had the misfortune of serving under this captain. If you have never served in the military, you can not understand. Dedicated human beings have their lives on the line for this officer and this officer has their lives in the palms of her hands. Saying that we should feel sorry or sad for her because she had a psychotic break is insulting to people who have psychotic breaks. I have known people who are manic depressive and they hate it when people use the "temporary insanity" defense in legal circles. In every case like this there is always a moment of clarity when they could have reached out for help before they descended into darkness. They chose not to. It is a matter of choice. The pool of astronauts is growing and it was bound to happen that a bad apple would sneak through. There was a time when there were written and unwritten codes for what sort of behavior was expected of a military officer. They are not to be judged by the same scale as the average citizens. I think this woman and most probably the shuttle pilot involved should be decommissioned and possibly worse. Layered on top of all this is the simple fact that these people, as astronauts and explorers of the great unknown, are supposed to be living treasures of the American society and symbols of our progress. I do not feel sad for them. I feel enraged and mocking them is a joy.
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Post by sts60 on Feb 7, 2007 10:44:41 GMT -4
Then you should enjoy the fact that one of the Google ads on this page as I view it says, "Love is in the Air".
Seriously, though - There was a time when there were written and unwritten codes for what sort of behavior was expected of a military officer. There still are. This sort of thing is hardly new; like any other pool of human beings, no matter how high the standards, military officers occasionally do bad things. This is simply a high-profile case.
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Post by echnaton on Feb 7, 2007 12:38:26 GMT -4
I do feel badly for her and her family as I would for anyone that threw away a great career and perhaps destroyed a family. On the other hand, high profile people that do very weird things in public, place themselves open for a bit of sport at their expense. NASA isn’t the National Football League after all, where outrageous off field behavior is expected and regularly gets excused.
Layered on top of all this is the simple fact that these people, as astronauts and explorers of the great unknown, are supposed to be living treasures of the American society and symbols of our progress.
And sports figures are supposed to be role models for kids too. See how well that has worked out.
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