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Post by lionking on May 11, 2007 6:37:48 GMT -4
I didn't blame all the problems on the jews. never. the palestinians share a big part of the problem. I was trying to intriduce the other side of the story to you as westerners since I assume you don't hear much about the jewish part of the problem. that is why my emphasis on previous posts was on the jews.
The 14 March movement that I support doesn't support resistance from one side and alone. When Iran and yria and all Arabs want to fight, then Lebanon and the Palestinians would fight, or else it is suicide and a lost war. This is what we are trying to convince Hizbollah with.
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Post by donnieb on May 11, 2007 7:24:57 GMT -4
I didn't blame all the problems on the jews. never. the palestinians share a big part of the problem. I was trying to intriduce the other side of the story to you as westerners since I assume you don't hear much about the jewish part of the problem. I think that assumption is incorrect, or at least inaccurate. We certainly do hear both sides of the story, including such issues as bulldozing of the homes of suspected Palestinian terrorists; the fence and issues surrounding it; the current "lockdown" in Gaza; and the activities of the Jewish fundamentalist and ultra-orthodox groups. We also hear about the American fundamentalist Christian groups who (for their own purposes) have made alliances with the ultra-orthodox Jewish groups, a situation I feel is extremely dangerous and provocative. Just because the American government is traditionally pro-Israel does not mean that all Americans are blind to the nuances of the conflict.
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Post by lionking on May 11, 2007 8:25:13 GMT -4
glad to hear this
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Post by gillianren on May 11, 2007 13:24:35 GMT -4
You've certainly been told it often enough.
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Post by Jason on May 11, 2007 13:28:03 GMT -4
Part of the stereotypical image of the American is that we're somehow uninformed about world events. To the extent this is true it isn't because we lack sources of information - instead it would be because many Americans often don't much care what's happening in a distant country that has little if any effect on their day-to-day lives.
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Post by lionking on May 11, 2007 16:45:15 GMT -4
I was not , however, informed about what are the things you recieve. If it is from CNN, you would see few pics of how israel devastates. you would see a lot of what palestinians did...
I have seen samples of how some newspapers distorts the news (New York Times). I think it would depend on the newspaper you read. maybe echnaton reads the other newspapers that put the full pic. that doesn't mean that all americans read them.
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Post by PhantomWolf on May 11, 2007 22:34:22 GMT -4
Heh, our media almost seems to be be pro-Palistinian and anti-Israel. They'll do a 5 minute story on how Israel blow up some poor terroriest and managed to get an innocent at the same time, pointing out how dreadful it is to do such a thing, then casually tack on in the last few seconds, "oh by the way it was in response to a bombing that killed 10 Israelis civilians."
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Post by Jason on May 12, 2007 1:07:10 GMT -4
I almost believe NPR stands for "National Palestinian Radio".
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Post by lionking on May 12, 2007 6:00:06 GMT -4
phantom I was speaking about the american media.
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Post by lionking on May 12, 2007 6:01:24 GMT -4
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Post by lionking on May 12, 2007 6:12:44 GMT -4
a documentary who was discussing the issue said the opposite of what you said (can't remember about what media they were speaking about, however). they said that media would always say the Israelis responded to some terrorist act which was not true. they would have started the killings, the palestinians answered , then they replied to the palestinians. but that's not important bcz both parties can always get it back to previous attacks from each other www.ifamericansknew.org/media/bbcmisleading.htmlseems also that important British newspapers entered the game
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Post by echnaton on May 12, 2007 13:19:07 GMT -4
The 14 March movement that I support doesn't support resistance from one side and alone. When Iran and yria and all Arabs want to fight, then Lebanon and the Palestinians would fight, or else it is suicide and a lost war. Am I reading this correctly that this March 14 movement is just waiting for more allies before it is willing to go to war with Israel? For what purpose? Iran and some Arab countries are committed to the destruction of Isreal so for the March 14 movement to want them as allies suggests a similar agenda. If not please clarify what the March 14 movement stands for.
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Post by lionking on May 12, 2007 13:36:04 GMT -4
echnaton, 14 March is against Israel. However, it is strongly against Syria , Hizb, and Iran. We are against Israel, but we can't withstand the price of fighting for all arabs.
The 14 March movement was done in 14 march 2005, after one month of assassination of former prime minister Rafic Hariri. Syria is the one that this group accused of the assassinations, and following assassinations. We are convincing Hizb to hand in its weapons, and America today is our ally, same as France. We want the UN tribunal to be set up, and this has caused a big problem in the internal policy.
As for fighting Israel, we have declared that we are the last arab country to sign peace with Israel. We will not allow any betrayal and dealing with Israel, contrary to hat Hizb and Syria accuses us.
As we acknowledge that Leb can't pay the price alone for fighting Israel, we don't deny that it is our enemy, and that a Palestinian state should come. When all arabs want to fight Israel, we can't stand with it. But that is far fetched scenario. The scenario that is real is that a Palestinian gov should be set up, Palestinians go back from Leb to Palestine, and everyone is set alone, until God wills of anotehr thing.
As for Iran and Syria, we are afraid hat Hizb will attack Israel and put us in danger if Iran is bombed or Syria is bombed. We are against any fighting for others on our land. we have had enough. If Iran and Syria want to do any agenda for them, let them do it on their own account. We want to live with peace.
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Post by lionking on May 12, 2007 13:42:05 GMT -4
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Post by lionking on May 13, 2007 12:59:59 GMT -4
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