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Post by Ginnie on Jun 24, 2007 22:42:30 GMT -4
My seventeen year old son is reading the bible just for fun...and we were having a conversation about Noah and the Ark. How did Noah fit all the species of the earth on the Ark?
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Post by Jason on Jun 24, 2007 22:43:37 GMT -4
It was a TARDIS ark.
(No I'm not being serious)
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Post by Ginnie on Jun 24, 2007 22:53:19 GMT -4
I had to look that one up. I've never watched Dr. Who. It shown on public television here (a station without commercials supported by sponsors like PBS in the States). Thank god for public television or else I would never had seen shows like Starlost, Monty Python, Fawlty Towers and a lot of other shows.
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Post by Al Johnston on Jun 25, 2007 6:09:15 GMT -4
He didn't: probably just as well, a ship 450 feet long made of wood would have broken its back in any serious weather.
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Post by furi on Jun 25, 2007 7:27:51 GMT -4
It's all very simple really,
It was a actually a time traveling Ark, with Cryogenic DNA storage.
He Just took on DNA extracts of basic Plant and Animal Life, The Least specialised example of the most primitive life and stored the genes stock, then to kill 2 birds with 1 stone and confuse us poor scientist , Traveled back in time, planted a fake fossil record, and then forward again, found a dry patch, and with the help of an external Alien/Deity, accelerated the evolutionary process creating the diverse biosphere we know today.
This solves all the problems with Volume Buoyancy, and requirements for food and waste management, and Species segregation.
as to the stability of a Large single beamed ship, the records are incorrect it was actually just a very roomy monocoque carbon fibre catamaran, the primitive bulky structure was just a hologram to fool the press and the on lookers.
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Post by echnaton on Jun 25, 2007 9:34:33 GMT -4
He didn't: probably just as well, a ship 450 feet long made of wood would have broken its back in any serious weather. And would have leaked between the planks with the slightest swell.
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Post by BertL on Jun 25, 2007 11:24:40 GMT -4
I've always wondered what Noah did with the fish.
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Post by furi on Jun 25, 2007 11:52:10 GMT -4
He did sick genetic experiments with them, splicing the base pair sequences with dactyl animals and Trees and inventing, Fish Fingers, and Fish Sticks,
Think about all the poor jelly fish and other Osmotic animals that much fresh water would have popped them, the surface could have looked like a giant Seafood flavoured bowl of Ramen. (mmmm Ramen, Food, Beer)
*Getting sidetracked now, going to have to drink beer and treat myself to a parmo on the way home.
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Post by BertL on Jun 25, 2007 12:47:19 GMT -4
Ummm, all sounds very reasonable. Maybe I should ask the question to a Christian, just to make sure.
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Post by echnaton on Jun 25, 2007 14:36:10 GMT -4
Ummm, all sounds very reasonable. Maybe I should ask the question to a Christian, just to make sure. A Christian answer: The Bible is not a factual history of the earth therefore questions about events in the Bible that require an factual answer can not be answered from Biblical sources.
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Post by gillianren on Jun 25, 2007 15:00:39 GMT -4
That's what my mother'd say.
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Post by Jason on Jun 27, 2007 12:03:20 GMT -4
Or another Christian answer: If God commands you to do something He'll make sure you can do it, even if it requires multiple miracles to accomplish.
When reading the Bible, especially the Old Testament, one should remember that this is a very brief account of events, with only what the priests of the time considered the most important details recounted. Things that seem very odd or impossible may seem that way because we don't have the context or added detail that would make sense of the situation.
For example, try to reconstruct the plot of the Star Wars movies from this summary: Anakin was born on Tatooine with no father. It was prophesied that he would bring balance to the Force, and he became a Jedi. He married in secret, which was forbidden to the Jedi, and when the evil one offered to save Padme his wife he became Darth Vader, and destroyed the Jedi. But Padme died nevertheless and he became more machine than man, twisted and evil. Luke took up his father's weapon, and Darth Vader tempted him, and his father smote his hand from his arm, but his sister saved him. Luke confronted his father and the evil one, and he would not be turned. When the evil one smote him his father arose against the evil one, and threw him into the abyss. But Anakin perished also. Thus Anakin brought balance to the Force.
That's about the level of detail we have for much of the Old Testament - the merest bare bones of the actual events.
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Post by gillianren on Jun 27, 2007 15:31:28 GMT -4
Wow, Jason. What a fundamental misunderstanding of the depth of detail in the Bible!
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Post by Ginnie on Jun 27, 2007 15:52:39 GMT -4
If God commands you to do something He'll make sure you can do it, even if it requires multiple miracles to accomplish.
Sounds like an explanation for almost anything in the Bible that can't be explained rationally. Combine that with "God works in mysterious ways" and everything is answered. If I knew it was that simple I wouldn't have left the church!
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Post by Jason on Jun 27, 2007 18:18:04 GMT -4
If I knew it was that simple I wouldn't have left the church! If you don't beleive God can accomplish miracles than I don't think you should be in a church.
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