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Post by Jason on Jan 18, 2008 17:45:03 GMT -4
I've been ignoring his posts for weeks now, because it's better for my mental health, Also known as the "na-na-na-na I can't hear you" approach. Well, a good portion of it was. Signing the wellfare reform bill was probably the best thing he did, but the Republican-controlled Congress probably deserves more credit than he does for that.
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Post by wdmundt on Jan 18, 2008 17:51:28 GMT -4
So linking Iraq to Al Qaeda is not necessarily linking Iraq to 9/11? Got it. I don't know how I could have been so confused about this. I do like how you can attribute so much to Hillary Clinton crying, but the following paragraph doesn't even make you blink: VP Dick Cheney said victory in Iraq "will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11."
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Post by Jason on Jan 18, 2008 17:55:27 GMT -4
So linking Iraq to Al Qaeda is not necessarily linking Iraq to 9/11? Got it. I don't know how I could have been so confused about this. Well, think about it for a moment. Does saying that someone has had business dealings with Microsoft before mean that they are responsible for everything Microsoft ever did? The Middle East is the geographic base of the terrorists who have been attacking the US, and Iraq is in the heart of the Middle East. I believe I alluded to Iraq being a base of operations in the middle of our enemies earlier.
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Post by Jason on Jan 18, 2008 18:12:54 GMT -4
Going back to the original topic of this thread again, if you want another reason not to vote for Mike Huckabee, you can use his latest ham-fisted attempt to ingratiate himself with South Carolina voters: "South Carolina's a great place for me. I mean, I know how to eat grits and speak the language. We even know how to talk about eating fried squirrel and stuff like that, so we're on the same wavelength." "When I was in college, we used to take a popcorn popper, because that was the only thing they would let us use in the dorm, and we would fry squirrels in a popcorn popper in the dorm room."
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Post by wdmundt on Jan 18, 2008 18:20:59 GMT -4
Oh my.
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Post by LunarOrbit on Jan 18, 2008 23:58:11 GMT -4
When I was in college, we used to take a popcorn popper, because that was the only thing they would let us use in the dorm, and we would fry squirrels in a popcorn popper in the dorm room." Ah, so that explains how he got so fat... I've heard squirrels are high in cholesterol.
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Post by RAF on Jan 19, 2008 15:42:40 GMT -4
Tongue in cheek... I think Huckabee is on to something. Isn't the bibical punishment for adultry stoning. Hell, we could eliminate half of congress that way.
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Post by Data Cable on Jan 20, 2008 4:11:11 GMT -4
Dan Savage said essentially the same thing last night on Real Time w/ Bill Maher.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jan 20, 2008 17:05:02 GMT -4
Well if you want to see real putting your foot in your mouth, Obama decided to praise Reagan and stated that the Republicans had been the party of ideas and change for the last 15 years. Way to get all those grass roots Dems onboard....
Pehaps he's going for the disinfranchised Repubs.
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Post by Jason on Jan 20, 2008 17:51:29 GMT -4
Praising Reagan might not get his own partisans excited, but that could be the start of an outreach to the other side that might work. Acknowledging that anyone on the other side ever had a good idea is something that very rarely happens in Washington these days.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jan 20, 2008 18:49:25 GMT -4
That might be a good approach AFTER receiving his own party's nomination, but before getting it, bad move.
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Post by Retrograde on Jan 20, 2008 19:17:47 GMT -4
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Post by wdmundt on Jan 22, 2008 22:56:38 GMT -4
From the AP: A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks.
The study concluded that the statements "were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses."
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The study counted 935 false statements in the two-year period. It found that in speeches, briefings, interviews and other venues, Bush and administration officials stated unequivocally on at least 532 occasions that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction or was trying to produce or obtain them or had links to al-Qaida or both.news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080123/ap_on_go_pr_wh/misinformation_study;_ylt=AoDR62c9oTG3yav2fjRb4u2s0NUE
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jan 22, 2008 23:14:17 GMT -4
Is that 935 false statments, or knowingly false statments. There is a difference between lying and just being wrong.
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Post by Jason on Jan 22, 2008 23:24:49 GMT -4
You hit the nail on the head Wolf.
And I very much doubt it was a nonprofit group without an agenda.
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