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Post by Jason on Nov 14, 2008 0:32:08 GMT -4
Do you know what really works well against AIDS? Not having sex with anyone but your spouse (assuming they are following the same guideline). Isn't that a good reason to support gay marriages? Only if you think gay marriages will promote sexual fidelity.
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Post by LunarOrbit on Nov 14, 2008 0:50:18 GMT -4
Isn't that a good reason to support gay marriages? Only if you think gay marriages will promote sexual fidelity. Marriage would promote fidelity among gay people the same way it does among straight people. I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but straight people have adulterous affairs too.
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Post by Jason on Nov 14, 2008 0:55:45 GMT -4
Only if you think gay marriages will promote sexual fidelity. Marriage would promote fidelity among gay people the same way it does among straight people. I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but straight people have adulterous affairs too. So you're saying it won't promote sexual fidelity. In that case no, it's not an argument for allowing same sex marriage.
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Post by LunarOrbit on Nov 14, 2008 1:05:24 GMT -4
That is not what I said. It won't guaranty fidelity, but it will at least give it some encouragement. Some is better than none.
But if you want guaranties then there are none for straight marriages either. So let's just stop marrying straight people too. If it can't guaranty fidelity then there is no purpose to it at all, right?
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Post by Data Cable on Nov 14, 2008 9:12:18 GMT -4
Not using IV drugs is another good way to prevent AIDS. IV drug use is perfectly safe, so long as you don't share your needles with anyone but your spouse (assuming they are following the same guideline).
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Post by BertL on Nov 14, 2008 10:07:05 GMT -4
Something that also works against AIDS is not having sex with anybody but your partner (provided they do the same). Whether you're married or not wouldn't make a difference.
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Post by gillianren on Nov 14, 2008 14:22:32 GMT -4
In short, use sensible precautions to avoid a blood-borne pathogen that also appears in certain other secretions. Check.
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Post by Dead Hoosiers on Nov 14, 2008 19:04:05 GMT -4
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Post by laurel on Nov 14, 2008 19:32:30 GMT -4
Is the Oxysilver Len Horowitz wants to sell me the same as colloidal silver? Also regarding his claims of iatrogenocide and that "the most dreaded diseases are drug-company induced," how does he explain the terrible epidemics that have happened throughout history before there were huge drug companies? He also links to Jeff Rense and Alex Jones. Personally I have a problem with people saying nobody should get vaccinations. A relative of mine was supposed to be vaccinated against pertussis (whooping cough) as a child, but this may have been overlooked because her parents moved around a lot when she was young, or maybe she got a vaccine that was expired. Anyway, she contracted pertussis as an adult and was horribly ill and she was coughing so hard that she broke several ribs. Paranoid conspiracy theories about vaccines also caused a polio outbreak in Nigeria a few years ago.
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Post by gillianren on Nov 14, 2008 19:41:13 GMT -4
If Robert Gallo were making money off of AIDS, he would've actually gotten the Nobel Prize that went to the French discoverers of the virus this year.
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Post by Dead Hoosiers on Nov 14, 2008 19:59:11 GMT -4
If Robert Gallo were making money off of AIDS, he would've actually gotten the Nobel Prize that went to the French discoverers of the virus this year. From ret' news re the Nobel Prize: "The award, however, has revived a long-running dispute between the two French scientists and Dr Robert Gallo of the US National Cancer Institute over who discovered and identified the virus. It eventually took a meeting of two presidents - Jacques Chirac of France and Ronald Reagan of the US - to persuade the National Institutes of Health and the Institut Pasteur to share royalties for the discovery and for the two researchers to agree to share the credit in 1987." Gallo made his money when our government financed him to create an incurable disease for biological warfare. What Gallo came up with was a retrovirus identical to the AIDS virus. In fact, it was the AIDS virus. That's how he was able to "discover" it. At least that's what Horowitz's book says. I read it years ago and don't remember all the particulars.
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Post by Dead Hoosiers on Nov 14, 2008 20:03:19 GMT -4
laurel:
There are 2 sides to this issue. While most of us know the benefits of vaccination, the cons are too numerous to recount here, but are well worth investigating. Research is mounting up linking vaccines to cancer, but it isn't yet definitive. I'd rather have whooping cough.
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Post by lazarusty on Nov 14, 2008 20:49:11 GMT -4
And the idea that diseases are deliberately put into vaccination shots for population control isn't a nice one, particularly as some diseases are designed to remain dormant for a while first so that there is no apparent link between the shot and the ultimately fatal illness.
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Post by Dead Hoosiers on Nov 14, 2008 21:06:41 GMT -4
When they filter their vaccines through animal tissues it picks up some of the animal's DNA. A filthy, dangerous practice. I don't care how much mercury they put into the vaccines to keep them fresh!
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Post by gillianren on Nov 15, 2008 1:31:57 GMT -4
Um . . . none. Not for years. Do try to keep up.
As for Robert Gallo, he didn't come up with anything anywhere near the AIDS virus until he stole research from the French. I really wish you'd stick to arguing subjects where you'd read anything approaching mainstream beliefs. But that would limit you so.
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