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Post by lazarusty on Oct 10, 2008 21:26:37 GMT -4
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Post by lazarusty on Oct 10, 2008 21:29:52 GMT -4
Of course, it's all about a one world currency.
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Post by laurel on Oct 10, 2008 21:57:26 GMT -4
It wasn't Congress threatening to enact martial law, it was a Congressman saying that some Representatives were threatened by fear-mongering people who said that martial law would be enacted if the bill failed. That's very different. And it's vague too. Who made the threats? Lobbyists? Other Congresspeople? Were they serious about martial law or could it have been hyperbole? Which Representatives were threatened? Brad Sherman doesn't say.
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Post by lazarusty on Oct 10, 2008 22:03:33 GMT -4
There were enough threats for some of them to change their mind and vote for the bill - a bill which will not solve the problem.
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Post by Jason on Oct 10, 2008 23:40:00 GMT -4
Congress did not change their votes because they were threatened with martial law. They changed their votes because it was a massively unpopular bill, and no one wanted to take the blame if it didn't work.
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Post by lazarusty on Oct 12, 2008 2:25:40 GMT -4
Congress did not change their votes because they were threatened with martial law. They changed their votes because it was a massively unpopular bill, and no one wanted to take the blame if it didn't work. Eh? They passed the bill, in spite of its unpopularity, thereofre they will take blame for it not working. I don't follow what you're saying.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Oct 12, 2008 4:27:15 GMT -4
They only passed it after failing it and requesting a number of changes to it. I didn't notice Martial Law starting between the period of them not passing it and the time it was amended and resubmitted.
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Post by Jason on Oct 12, 2008 11:26:05 GMT -4
As PhantomWolf says - they voted against the bill before they voted for it.
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Post by lazarusty on Oct 12, 2008 21:03:50 GMT -4
The threats came between the first and second voting. After it failed the first time, they were threatened to change their vote for the second time...or else!
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Post by Nowhere Man on Oct 12, 2008 22:59:17 GMT -4
Rusty, are you a Kiwi, or are you a Yank living in Kiwiland? If the former, what do you care what the US gummint does?
Fred
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Post by Jason on Oct 12, 2008 23:16:09 GMT -4
The threats came between the first and second voting. After it failed the first time, they were threatened to change their vote for the second time...or else! Actually they were threatened with a public just as angry that they weren't doing anything (which has been the credo of the current Congress).
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Post by lazarusty on Oct 13, 2008 1:23:35 GMT -4
Congressmen recieved thousands of complaints AGAINST the bill from citizens which is why it wasn't passed the first time.
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Post by Jason on Oct 13, 2008 1:28:46 GMT -4
Go read up on the news reports again Rusty. I already mentioned thousands of complaints against the bill. When they didn't pass the bill the first time in large part because of those complaints, they were equally excoriated for having done nothing.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Oct 13, 2008 19:17:52 GMT -4
I'm wondering why someone in New Zealand (Rusty) is so concerned with rumors about the United states...
Fred
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Post by lazarusty on Oct 14, 2008 1:53:48 GMT -4
I'm wondering why someone in New Zealand (Rusty) is so concerned with rumors about the United states... Fred Me too, now that you mention it. But what happens in America will have some fallout on the entire world.
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